Looking for 2 people to test our new charging cables

So in summary, it'll happily do up to the rated 60W, looks good, feels good and keeps nice and cool even at the top wattage.

What are both your thoughts on...

Length (1.8m)
Colour (Is black "boring" or does it really matter?)
What would you be prepared to pay for a cable like this (SRP)?

:)
 
subbytna said:
So in summary, it'll happily do up to the rated 60W, looks good, feels good and keeps nice and cool even at the top wattage.

What are both your thoughts on...

Length (1.8m)
Colour (Is black "boring" or does it really matter?)
What would you be prepared to pay for a cable like this (SRP)?

:)
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Length is great and I like the braided look and feel. Black is good for me, other colours would be welcome.

I'd pay about £8

For reference my fave cable is this one with a power meter built in and rated to 100W.

USB C cable, mcdodo USB C to USB C Cable 1.2m 100W 5A PD QC 4.0 Fast Charging Cable Charging Power of the Visual Display,Compatible with laptop Pad Pro 2020,Galaxy S21 S10 Huawei More (Black) https://smile.amazon.co.uk/dp/B098X...t_i_V4PHATQ4AXYDXV2QNVZB?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1
 
kona786 said:
Length is great and I like the braided look and feel. Black is good for me, other colours would be welcome.

I'd pay about £8

For reference my fave cable is this one with a power meter built in and rated to 100W.

USB C cable, mcdodo USB C to USB C Cable 1.2m 100W 5A PD QC 4.0 Fast Charging Cable Charging Power of the Visual Display,Compatible with laptop Pad Pro 2020,Galaxy S21 S10 Huawei More (Black) https://smile.amazon.co.uk/dp/B098X...t_i_V4PHATQ4AXYDXV2QNVZB?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1
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One step ahead of you :) This cable is in the pipeline already, along with a 200W plug that doubles as a stand alone charging station too. With 3 PD sockets and 1 QC 4.0 socket :D
 
I drained my laptop to under 10% yesterday and did some further checks this morning.

With a couple of h.265 videos playing and with all battery saving/power management switched off and with brightness turned up to eye bleeding maximum...

The Apple cable has slightly lower voltage loss (it's shorter) and therefore slightly higher power at 46 watts. Your cable topped out at 45 watts so I can only assume that 45/46 watts is a limitation on the MBA.

It charged on full power for around half an hour by which time the MBA was up to 55% charge when the charging current started reducing, this is what I'd expect. The cable temperature didn't vary at all while charging on full squirt, it didn't even feel slightly warm.

The length is good, 1.2m is more or less useless but 1.8m is much more useful. I like the braided finish and the colour is fine. I don't care about different colours but some people like them.

Anker are normally my brand of choice when looking for these sort of cables, they are two for £12 on Amazon so I'd say that £7-£8 for a single cable would be about right.

I keep a travel pack of various chargers and cables in my backpack and this will replace the USB C one that's in there now because it's longer and better constructed. The length will be handy in hotel rooms where you're never sure where the power sockets are!

Hope this helps.
 
Just some thoughts re price:

  • Is it USB-IF certified?
  • Is it USB 2.0?
  • Can it do DP Alt?
  • Could it charge a device and carry 4K60? These cables are rare and useful if you have a 4K display with PD. When I say rare, I mean RARE.

These factors could influence the price a lot.


I don’t typically buy cables based on how it look, just whether it meets requirements based on specs/reviews.




I’d have a think about who you’re trying to target - do you want to make it fashionable or functional?
 
Feek said:
I drained my laptop to under 10% yesterday and did some further checks this morning.

With a couple of h.265 videos playing and with all battery saving/power management switched off and with brightness turned up to eye bleeding maximum...

The Apple cable has slightly lower voltage loss (it's shorter) and therefore slightly higher power at 46 watts. Your cable topped out at 45 watts so I can only assume that 45/46 watts is a limitation on the MBA.

It charged on full power for around half an hour by which time the MBA was up to 55% charge when the charging current started reducing, this is what I'd expect. The cable temperature didn't vary at all while charging on full squirt, it didn't even feel slightly warm.

The length is good, 1.2m is more or less useless but 1.8m is much more useful. I like the braided finish and the colour is fine. I don't care about different colours but some people like them.

Anker are normally my brand of choice when looking for these sort of cables, they are two for £12 on Amazon so I'd say that £7-£8 for a single cable would be about right.

I keep a travel pack of various chargers and cables in my backpack and this will replace the USB C one that's in there now because it's longer and better constructed. The length will be handy in hotel rooms where you're never sure where the power sockets are!

Hope this helps.
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Thanks for that Feek, all good info to know.

https://subbytech.com/products/usb-c-to-usb-c-cables-60w - £7.99 so I'm happy with the cost we have on there.
Twin pack is 14.99 so I may look into that bundle pricing again and reduce. Same goes with the triple and 4 pack pricing.

I appreciate you checking it out for me, hope the cable serves you well in future :D
 
MrRockliffe said:
Just some thoughts re price:

  • Is it USB-IF certified? - This is normally on the packaging, to reduce packaging waste for our customers, we got the cables in bundles and not individually boxed.
  • Is it USB 2.0? Both ends of the cable are USB C. It's a C to C cable.
  • Can it do DP Alt? See main message below
  • Could it charge a device and carry 4K60? These cables are rare and useful if you have a 4K display with PD. When I say rare, I mean RARE.See message below

These factors could influence the price a lot.


I don’t typically buy cables based on how it look, just whether it meets requirements based on specs/reviews.




I’d have a think about who you’re trying to target - do you want to make it fashionable or functional?
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  • Is it USB-IF certified? - This is normally on the packaging, to reduce packaging waste for our customers, we got the cables in bundles and not individually boxed. It's the same manufacturer that does our MFi certified USB C to Lightning cables. If Apple trusts them to be legit manufacturer in their materials and processes, for MFi certification, then I'll take them as being good enough for our products. I'll look into it though so thanksf or the suggestion.
  • Is it USB 2.0? It's a USB C to USB C cable....forgive me if I've misunderstood your query. In what context do you mean USB 2.0?
  • Can it do DP Alt? See main message below*
  • Could it charge a device and carry 4K60? These cables are rare and useful if you have a 4K display with PD. When I say rare, I mean RARE. See message below*

*I'm not sure and I can't get my manufacturer just now to check.

If you want, I'd be happy to send you a cabe to test for your needs. A treat on me :D If it works then happy days, more data for me to work with. If it doesn't do DP Alt and carry 4k60fps then sure, you got a free cable out of it....and again more info for me to know. Win Win all round :D

Drop me a trust with your postal address if you want to take me up on the freebie :)

Thanks for commenting, all comments welcome
 
subbytna said:
It's a USB C to USB C cable....forgive me if I've misunderstood your query. In what context do you mean USB 2.0?
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As in, what is the transfer speed rated at?

Apologies if I’m teaching to suck eggs here, but just as a brief explanation:

USB Type C is the connector type.

The cable can then be certified to run at different transfer speeds.

It’s all a bit confusing these days, and I’m a little behind, but there is:

  • USB 2.0
  • USB 3.2 Gen 1 - 5 Gbps
  • USB 3.2 Gen 2 - 10 Gbps
  • USB 4 - Min 20 Gbps

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Would be great to test one - I’m in a reasonably unique situation where I have a 4K monitor capable of delivering 65w over PD too - it’s surprisingly difficult to find a cable rated for this, that isn’t a thunderbolt 3 cable.
 
MrRockliffe said:
As in, what is the transfer speed rated at?

Apologies if I’m teaching to suck eggs here, but just as a brief explanation:

USB Type C is the connector type.

The cable can then be certified to run at different transfer speeds.

It’s all a bit confusing these days, and I’m a little behind, but there is:

  • USB 2.0
  • USB 3.2 Gen 1 - 5 Gbps
  • USB 3.2 Gen 2 - 10 Gbps
  • USB 4 - Min 20 Gbps

Edit:

Would be great to test one - I’m in a reasonably unique situation where I have a 4K monitor capable of delivering 65w over PD too - it’s surprisingly difficult to find a cable rated for this, that isn’t a thunderbolt 3 cable.
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Drop me a trust with your postal info :)
 
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@kona786 @Feek

Got it confirmed that it'll easily do warp charge too :D Happy with that now that a third party has tested and confirmed it too.
 
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@subbytna

I tested it with my OnePlus 9 Pro and while it does support Warp charging it was limited to 3 Amps. The same as another non warp cable I tried. I'm still glad they're at least compatible and fast than 18W.


So instead of the full ~65W I was getting ~25W.
 
@subbytna
I have checked this page and I can't find any mention of transfer speeds. I mention this as I would like a 2 metre cable for my USB-C NVME enclosure, which is sometimes disconnected by moving the enclosure.

Two links that should give you more of an idea of what I look for when I check the specifications of a USB-C cable:
At the very least, I would buy a USB 3.1 Gen 2, purely for the 10 Gbit/s transfer speed - which, according to Wiki, translates to around 1212 MB/s. Given that my enclosure can achieve around 700 MB/sec, this expectation of mine isn't unreasonable.

If your cable is USB 3.1 Gen 2, then I would be interested in trying it. If not for free, then I would happily pay £7.99 which seems quite reasonable for a 1.8m cable.
 
kona786 said:
@subbytna

I tested it with my OnePlus 9 Pro and while it does support Warp charging it was limited to 3 Amps. The same as another non warp cable I tried. I'm still glad they're at least compatible and fast than 18W.


So instead of the full ~65W I was getting ~25W.
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Hello chap, thanks for getting back to me. The person who tried it was a Canadian associate I know from a Liverpool forum. He got 60W charging from his OP and plug. Interesting to note that though with your findings. I'll still use that feedback to get the next version of the cable improved again. New cables will be 100W rated.
 
darael said:
@subbytna
I have checked this page and I can't find any mention of transfer speeds. I mention this as I would like a 2 metre cable for my USB-C NVME enclosure, which is sometimes disconnected by moving the enclosure.

Two links that should give you more of an idea of what I look for when I check the specifications of a USB-C cable:
At the very least, I would buy a USB 3.1 Gen 2, purely for the 10 Gbit/s transfer speed - which, according to Wiki, translates to around 1212 MB/s. Given that my enclosure can achieve around 700 MB/sec, this expectation of mine isn't unreasonable.

If your cable is USB 3.1 Gen 2, then I would be interested in trying it. If not for free, then I would happily pay £7.99 which seems quite reasonable for a 1.8m cable.
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Drop me a Trust please with your address. I'll forward you one to try as I'd like to know the capabilities. My manufacturer is closed just now for the holidays so I can't reach them to check with the tecnical department for this info you need. You can try it and let me know. Sound ok?
 
darael said:
@subbytna
I have checked this page and I can't find any mention of transfer speeds. I mention this as I would like a 2 metre cable for my USB-C NVME enclosure, which is sometimes disconnected by moving the enclosure.

Two links that should give you more of an idea of what I look for when I check the specifications of a USB-C cable:
At the very least, I would buy a USB 3.1 Gen 2, purely for the 10 Gbit/s transfer speed - which, according to Wiki, translates to around 1212 MB/s. Given that my enclosure can achieve around 700 MB/sec, this expectation of mine isn't unreasonable.

If your cable is USB 3.1 Gen 2, then I would be interested in trying it. If not for free, then I would happily pay £7.99 which seems quite reasonable for a 1.8m cable.
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it's a USB 2 spec cable.

480Mbps.
 
subbytna said:
Hello chap, thanks for getting back to me. The person who tried it was a Canadian associate I know from a Liverpool forum. He got 60W charging from his OP and plug. Interesting to note that though with your findings. I'll still use that feedback to get the next version of the cable improved again. New cables will be 100W rated.
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OnePlus Warp charging runs @ 10V on the OnePlus 9 Pro. 6 Amps would be required to achieve 60W. It's not possible with the cable you provided.

Laptop was @ 20V and 3A hence the 60W achieved.
 
kona786 said:
OnePlus Warp charging runs @ 10V on the OnePlus 9 Pro. 6 Amps would be required to achieve 60W. It's not possible with the cable you provided.

Laptop was @ 20V and 3A hence the 60W achieved.
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I'll go back to him and ask for full specs of what he used and results :)
 
@subbytna
As from my email this morning, that you've already replied to, you will know that I have received my USB cable. Thank you very much for your generosity, albeit to satisfy your own curiosity. ;):D

First impressions, your cable definitely feels thinner than my existing cable. But that's not really a bad thing, as it makes it more flexible. Sometimes I find my Fasgear cable can be too rigid, but I've always found thicker cables are more reliable and last longer. Also my cable supports 100W vs your 60W, so that probably explains the difference in thickness. But I didn't actually buy the Fasgear cable for the wattage, only for the speeds and reliability - the latter being something that my Sabrent NVME enclosure randomly has an issue with.

Using your cable, transfer speeds from my NVME enclosure were around 45 MB/sec. Versus the (sometimes) 700 MB/sec I sometimes see from my enclosure, I'm sure you would agree with me when I say it's not very fast. But I was warned about this by @kona786 but it was nice to verify it for myself. I didn't find your cable any more or less reliable than my Fasgear cable, which isn't really a bad thing. When I have more time, I will perhaps try a PCIe USB-C card to see it is any more reliable and faster than the onboard USB-C port that I currently use.

Overall, it is probably a good cable for charging. I don't own a USB-C charger, but I do want to buy one in the future. When I do, I will be sure to test your cable with it.

Nice touch with the packaging and Haribo by the way. I didn't expect that and it was quite welcome after my Saturday morning adventure with the boiler acting up.

Not that I am trying to set the standard by the way, but here is a link to my current Fasgear cable: https://www.fasgear.com/Fasgear-USB...ivery-4K-60Hz-Video-Transmission-p456113.html
 
The cable didn't have data transfer as a priority when it was designed, primarily as a charging cable first and foremost. Thinner cable yes as you mentioned, due to the 60W rating, so less copper in the wire.

This was the first dip of the toes as it were, into higher rated cables for us. A "bridge product" if you like, to the 100W USB c 3.2 cables that we're looking to get done later this year :) Those cables will be where I want to be at, in terms of products offered to our customers :)

Thanks for the feedback. All feedback is important to me, good and ideas to improve on :)
 
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