Looking for a compact

The x100 is really nice but it's a fixed lens at 35mm equivalent (which is an ace length imo). If this is your only camera then you'll need to be comfortable with this as it limits it's use. If it's a 2nd camera then yeah it'd be very nice.

This would be my only camera for the time being. So it's better to go for one with a lens that's not fixed?

I'd personally say X100 as it's the closest to giving you DSLR quality (pretty damn fantastic quality at that) as well as being the nicest to use imho. The smaller compacts like the Sony and Panny are admittedly smaller but the X100 is a camera I'd happily keep and use for the better part of a decade whereas I feel like while the current performance compacts do well for their role, they will also be made obsolete very quickly and so their performance will no longer be that much of an advantage, just becoming another compact. The X100 matches all of their quality easily in terms of sensor, with more detailed images and imo a nicer shooting experience. It's just not /that/ much smaller than a DSLR (though the little 23mm f/2 lens is a little wonder of design if you ask me)

Sounds good though, will definitely keep this in mind.


I'm looking at both the RX100 and the X100 now, if anyone else can offer any insight into any of the above on the list I made would be appreciated.
 
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I prefer the ones like the RX100, Panasonic LX7 & Olympus XZ-2 where I wouldn't need to interchange the lens.

Is there a short list of the best of the bunch from these? I do really like the look of the RX100, but understand the price for it's performance may not match what else is available.

From the posts i can see:

LX7
RX100
X10
XZ2
X20
X100
g15

Edit: Just wanted to note, an important aspect of the camera is that it's easily able to fit in a jacket pocket, something that can be carried around easily as I only ever take my phone, wallet and keys with me.


All of these are great camera that take great images. You need to priorities what you want out of the camera, set a budget and see what there is.

E.g., for me having a 24mm FF equivalent lens would be an absolute requirement and that would discard a lot of these cameras. Similarly, I would definitely want a zoom lens (or more accurately the ability for both wide and tele photos), so the X100 would be out of the question (and if I was going fixed I would look at the Nikon A because I would find the 28mm focal length more conductive to what I shoot - landscape).



All of these camera will fit in a jacket pocket, as will the compact systems cameras with interchangeable lenses that I suggested. In fact a camera like the Olympus epm2 is 370g with lens and battery (and with the 14mm pancake lens comes in at a mere 320g), the Fuji X100 is 450g.
 
This would be my only camera for the time being. So it's better to go for one with a lens that's not fixed?

It's probably best to get a zoom compact or a small interchangeable lens camera then as you'll be able to play with different focal lengths to find what you like the most. The fixed length compacts are great if you know you'll like the length ;)

so rx100, lx7 etc as already recommended or micro 4/3, nikon 1 and sony nex as a CSC.
 
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Thanks for all the input, I'm still deciding.

I'm looking at the RX100, LX7, X100 and XZ-2 more than the others at the moment. I get the whole interchangeable lens thing being good, but personally, for my use, I'd rather have something I can pull out, take a quick snap and put away again, rather than fiddle with different lens', especially if it means more to carry around on my person.

I would probably take the plunge with the RX100, but it concerns me that people are saying it's over-rated and over-priced. Is £420 too much for it? Would I be better going for the LX7 for £255 or the XZ-2 for £349?
 
Thanks for all the input, I'm still deciding.

I'm looking at the RX100, LX7, X100 and XZ-2 more than the others at the moment. I get the whole interchangeable lens thing being good, but personally, for my use, I'd rather have something I can pull out, take a quick snap and put away again, rather than fiddle with different lens', especially if it means more to carry around on my person.

I would probably take the plunge with the RX100, but it concerns me that people are saying it's over-rated and over-priced. Is £420 too much for it? Would I be better going for the LX7 for £255 or the XZ-2 for £349?

The thing is with an interchangeable lens camera (e.g. m43) you don't have to fiddle with lenses at all unless you want to. Mine has the kit lens on it most of the time and just sits in my jacket pocket, I whip it out to take a quick photo and throw it back in my pocket. No need to change lenses or anything. I treat exactly the same as a compact camera. In fact I purchased it because I wanted a high quality compact, considered all the options like LX7, XZ-2, Sony RX100 just for something small, light with high performance. An m43 or Nikon 1 system just seemed to offer much more camera, at price points less than the RX100.


And then there is just the benefits of having the ability to change lenses if you want to. I have a 40-150mm (80-300mm equivalent) zoom lens which is also tiny, this fits into my other jacket pocket. Useful if I see any wildlife. But i don't need that extra lens at all, without it the camera has much the same lens focal range as most of the compacts.


Not saying it is the best thing for you personally, just don't want you to dismiss the idea because you have a preconceived idea that they are hard to us or you need to change lenses, or that they are big or heavy, or even expensive!
As I said, I wanted to simply buy a small compact to avoid using my mobile phone, size and weight and ease of use were all critical factors considered along side focus performance (I want something that focuses near instantly) and image quality. The small epm2 was exactly what I needed.

If I was to get an actual compact I might just see how small I could get, so it fits in a shirt pocket. None of the cameras listed here a shirt pocket sized. Canon S110 is almost shirt pocket sized and very good.


As for the RX100, don't get me wrong, it is a good camera, but very expensive. For that kind of money there are better cameras out there (e.g. an m43 interchangeable lens camera), for a lot less money there are cameras that are almost as good. People rave about the relatively big sensor, which is nice, but you can get an even bigger sensor in an m43 camera. And also the lens just lets the system down a bit, at the tele end it has a relatively small aperture compared to these other compact cameras, such that cameras like the LX7, Olympus XZ-2 let in more light and offer shallow depth of focus. But again, the RX100 is a very nice camera, just over-hyped more than anything
 
I see your point, I guess it's going to be tough to decide just from reading about them, I think I need to go into a shop and play with them before deciding which to get. I think I'll look at the rx100, lx7, x100, x20, m34 and nikon 1 and see what I like better, I just wanted a rough idea of what to look for, and it seems any of these cameras would be a solid choice, I just didn't want to get something crappy and regret it afterwards.
 
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