Looking to Upgrade, mainly for BF4

[Marine-RX179]

Thing is nvidia must be confident to release the 770 at all with 2GB?

Not really. IMO they should have released 4GB as standard for the 770.

It's not like they are providing a "2GB would be enough for 1920 res or your money back" guarantee. If people's 770 2GB vram runs out before the GPU being too slow, it's still win win situation for Nvidia, as people would need to upgrade their card sooner. Also not to mention giving people only 2GB or vram instead of 4GB would save them some money.

 

[sieze2]

I very much doubt BF4 will go over 2g, and if it does it wont be by much.

The BF4 beta goes live in a week (oct 1st for premium members), so we will find out soon enough.

 

[LtMatt]

The BF4 beta goes live in a week (oct 1st for premium members), so we will find out soon enough.

Depends on how big the map is. The beta map for Battlefield 3 was metro. The least demanding map on bf3 for fps and vram usage. We should still hopefully get a good idea what its going to be like though.

 

[Darujhistan]

That was my thought too Tommy.. decided to play it safe and get the 4gb.. at the time was only slightly more expensive (like 20 quid I think)... was a no brainer.

Smart choice.

 

[Silent_Scone]

it would be daft to base performance on a beta. Full stop

 

[~>Dg<~]

will be few tweaks but a lot will be the same.

it will be like bf3 i don't get why some many cant understand this.

 

[tommybhoy]

Also you are going on about Ultra HD textures when discussing a system powered by a dual core i5? Even if/when UHD textures can be applied neither the GPU nor Cpu could run them at a high enough fps to be worth a damn.

I could pile on texture packs to Skyrim and cry foul about vram. Fact is my old card could have 6GB of vram it still wouldn't be able to run the game at acceptable fps.

I can play bf3 on high with about 30 fps which I find to be fine.

The op doesn't crave for high fps so he can probably play on higher settings over someone who wants 60 fps minimums.

Again textures don't have remotely the same kind of hit on the gpu's core as adding extra AA, Skyrim breaching 2GB using zero AA but with a lot of high res textures, my 6950's were hitting very high fps to cope on a highly modded Skyrim with zero AA(as I was playing in 3D), swapped it out for a slower 7970 and it was still hitting the fps cap(2X the frame rate of what's in the screenie in this post):

http://forums.overclockers.co.uk/showpost.php?p=22482406&postcount=1

The most stupid thing about this particular 2GB v's 4GB 670 debacle today though is why is it such an issue when the 4GB can be had for less than a 2GB varient???

will be few tweaks but a lot will be the same.

it will be like bf3 i don't get why some many cant understand this.

Is the considerably improved lighting/tesselated sea warfare just a few tweaks?

 

[Richeh]

The Beta map is Siege of Shanghai (The falling skyscraper one) so hopefully one of the more demanding maps.

Although I initially thought it looked very similar to BF3 watching a lot of the latest build videos they have improved/refined quite a bit and especially with the water/particle effects etc

Not necessarily much higher quality textures but it will be more demanding than BF3.

Sitting happy with my HIS 7950 3GB

 

[teppic]

Benchmarks tend to change a lot between betas and final release, but yeah it'll give an indication.

It's going to be more demanding than BF3 for sure. DICE wouldn't put a much higher spec unless necessary, as they want the game to sell as well as it can.

 

[LtMatt]

The Beta map is Siege of Shanghai (The falling skyscraper one) so hopefully one of the more demanding maps.

Oh goody, that map looks mint.

Drink up that vram BF4. It's certainly going to ruffle some feathers here if it does.

 

[Marine-RX179]

Benchmarks tend to change a lot between betas and final release, but yeah it'll give an indication.

It's going to be more demanding than BF3 for sure. DICE wouldn't put a much higher spec unless necessary, as they want the game to sell as well as it can.

DICE is not exactly holding a knife at peoples' throat to put all graphic settings to highest and with 4xAA. Nobody is telling people run the game on max setting with 4xAA on a 7850 or something...graphic options and adjustment exist for a reason.

IMO not enough games developers are doing what Crytek did with Crysis back in 2007. That game still look gorgeous even today. FAR too many games are just rehashing old game/graphic engines...

 

[LtMatt]

DICE is not exactly holding a knife at peoples' throat to put all graphic settings to highest and with 4xAA. Nobody is telling people run the game on max setting with 4xAA on a 7850 or something...graphic options and adjustment exist for a reason.

IMO not enough games developers are doing what Crytek did with Crysis back in 2007. That game still look gorgeous even today. FAR too many games are just rehashing old game/graphic engines...

Hopefully AMD get DirectCompute based HDAO into Battlefield 4. Much better than HBAO and will certainly give AMD cards an advantage over the competition.

 

[teppic]

DICE is not exactly holding a knife at peoples' throat to put all graphic settings to highest and with 4xAA. Nobody is telling people run the game on max setting with 4xAA on a 7850 or something...graphic options and adjustment exist for a reason.

I'm not sure what that has to do with what I said - the minimum recommended specs have gone up a lot since BF3. You obviously can't run the game maxed out with 4xAA on those specs.

 

[LtMatt]

I'm not sure what that has to do with what I said - the minimum recommended specs have gone up a lot since BF3. You obviously can't run the game maxed out with 4xAA on those specs.

I think you'll need 2x670/680/770 SLI for max spec at 1080p/1440p. The big question is can the 2gb vram cards avoid choking, stuttering or hitching. If it does, you know its running short.

 

[teppic]

I think you'll need 2x670/680/770 SLI for max spec at 1080p/1440p. The big question is can the 2gb vram cards avoid choking, stuttering or hitching. If it does, you know its running short.

When I said SLI/Crossfire for maxed out settings a while back you said there was no chance

 

[LtMatt]

When I said SLI/Crossfire for maxed out settings a while back you said there was no chance

I meant without AA back then. should have clarified. I still think it might be possible at 1080p, providing AA is reduced or removed.