Looking to upgrade to 100+ fps 1440p

Parkinson1NX · 25 Nov 2018 at 17:28

Hi everyone,

I'm looking for some advice on where to next take my build, I understand a GFX would most likely give me what I need (1080Ti) but is there anything within my build that is getting a bit dated?

I have on order a G-Sync 144hz monitor.

I would like to overclock my 5820k and go for a 1080Ti and possibly better RAM for my board.

Not really got a budget but something sensible.

Thanks in advance,

Current specs below.

i7 5820k
Corsair H110i GT
Gigabyte X99 SLI
KFA2 HOF 980Ti 1480Mhz
Kingston FURY 16GB 2400 MHz
Samsung EVO 250GB & 1TB SSD
Seagate 1TB
Superflower 1000w Platinum
Carbide 540 High Airflow ATX Cube Case
Dell 25" 1440p

energizer123 · 27 Nov 2018 at 11:20

Looks good. I have a 1080ti and 7700k on a 1440 ultra wide and get over 100 fps on almost everything at high/ultra detail.

lee32uk · 27 Nov 2018 at 12:05

You should be fine with just a gpu upgrade. The 1080 ti has gone back up in price, so an RTX 2080 might be cheaper depending on where you buy from.

Parkinson1NX · 28 Nov 2018 at 18:05

lee32uk said:
You should be fine with just a gpu upgrade. The 1080 ti has gone back up in price, so an RTX 2080 might be cheaper depending on where you buy from.

Thanks for the help, I'd liked to of got KFA2 HOF 1080Ti so the inside of my build doesn't change to much as the build is black and white with red lighting for affect.

ilc72 · 28 Nov 2018 at 18:49

Parkinson1NX said:
Hi everyone,

I'm looking for some advice on where to next take my build, I understand a GFX would most likely give me what I need (1080Ti) but is there anything within my build that is getting a bit dated?

I have on order a G-Sync 144hz monitor.

I would like to overclock my 5820k and go for a 1080Ti and possibly better RAM for my board.

Not really got a budget but something sensible.

Thanks in advance,

Current specs below.

i7 5820k
Corsair H110i GT
Gigabyte X99 SLI
KFA2 HOF 980Ti 1480Mhz
Kingston FURY 16GB 2400 MHz
Samsung EVO 250GB & 1TB SSD
Seagate 1TB
Superflower 1000w Platinum
Carbide 540 High Airflow ATX Cube Case
Dell 25" 1440p

I think your future limitation will become CPU as more and more game engines are now properly using 8 threads, I would check out some of the good CPU scaling videos. I am not saying it’s now, but the most recent review on GamersNexus looked at the performance of the i5-9600K and noted some frame time drops in Far Cry 5 and that’s a 6-core 6-thread CPU.

One of the potential risks to your gaming experience could be current/future patches and microcode updates as these could potentially disproportionately affect older CPU’s as gaming engines are updated, whilst the i7-5820K is a 6-core 12-thread processor it’s hamstrung by lower relative clock speed base 3.3GHz boost 3.6GHz.

Unfortunately, even an overclocked Ryzen 2700 outperforms the chip in all but single core workloads. With X99 your basically looking at HEDT platform for high framerate gaming.

If it were me, I’d probably hold the CPU upgrade until Intel supply normalises (could be another 6 months) and so pricing becomes more sensible, or jump on the Ryzen train with some of the great AMD deals around. However Ryzen benefits from higher frequency memory much more than Intel in gaming workloads, though beyond low latency 3000MHz memory the returns are diminishing. That might need to factor in the upgrade thinking.

As always timing of upgrades is tricky, but I’d set a budget and then work back from there. If it were a sensible price currently the 8700K would still be the most natural upgrade unless you have £1000+ to spend on just the i9-9900K platform.

I would certainly delay until after Computex 2019 to see if there is any news on Zen 2 based Ryzen 3000 series to see if the rumoured IPC gains and improved clock speeds on their new 7nm node materialise.

Parkinson1NX · 28 Nov 2018 at 18:56

ilc72 said:
I think your future limitation will become CPU as more and more game engines are now properly using 8 threads, I would check out some of the good CPU scaling videos. I am not saying it’s now, but the most recent review on GamersNexus looked at the performance of the i5-9600K and noted some frame time drops in Far Cry 5 and that’s a 6-core 6-thread CPU.

One of the potential risks to your gaming experience could be current/future patches and microcode updates as these could potentially disproportionately affect older CPU’s as gaming engines are updated, whilst the i7-5820K is a 6-core 12-thread processor it’s hamstrung by lower relative clock speed base 3.3GHz boost 3.6GHz.

Unfortunately, even an overclocked Ryzen 2700 outperforms the chip in all but single core workloads. With X99 your basically looking at HEDT platform for high framerate gaming.

If it were me, I’d probably hold the CPU upgrade until Intel supply normalises (could be another 6 months) and so pricing becomes more sensible, or jump on the Ryzen train with some of the great AMD deals around. However Ryzen benefits from higher frequency memory much more than Intel in gaming workloads, though beyond low latency 3000MHz memory the returns are diminishing. That might need to factor in the upgrade thinking.

As always timing of upgrades is tricky, but I’d set a budget and then work back from there. If it were a sensible price currently the 8700K would still be the most natural upgrade unless you have £1000+ to spend on just the i9-9900K platform.

I would certainly delay until after Computex 2019 to see if there is any news on Zen 2 based Ryzen 3000 series to see if the rumoured IPC gains and improved clock speeds on their new 7nm node materialise.

For me then a GPU upgrade and a little down the line a CPU... Will have to cross that bridge when I get to it but thank you for the info. This being my first actual build and never done an upgrade myself its quite daunting as I wouldn't want to go out there and get something that won't be that beneficial or will require something else to be upgraded so I don't get bottle necked.

I suppose I'd like to build up to a full system overhaul, keeping the case that I have an changing GPU, CPU, Motherboard (Same time as CPU) then upgrade the memory for more demanding games at 1440 or potentially 4k but believe it or not 4k gives me headaches.

Thanks again.

ilc72 · 28 Nov 2018 at 23:58

Parkinson1NX said:
For me then a GPU upgrade and a little down the line a CPU... Will have to cross that bridge when I get to it but thank you for the info. This being my first actual build and never done an upgrade myself its quite daunting as I wouldn't want to go out there and get something that won't be that beneficial or will require something else to be upgraded so I don't get bottle necked.

I suppose I'd like to build up to a full system overhaul, keeping the case that I have an changing GPU, CPU, Motherboard (Same time as CPU) then upgrade the memory for more demanding games at 1440 or potentially 4k but believe it or not 4k gives me headaches.

Thanks again.

No problem, I still have my old OcUK system in the Corsair Carbide 540 with a Corsair 1200w PSU! You have a good base to start with an existing case, PSU, and AIO that are all perfectly good still as well as great storage. There are plenty of great channels on YouTube with step-by-step guides, just not Lyle (Bitwit’s alter ego)!

Also you maybe able to recoup some money on your existing GPU and CPU/Motherboard too! Collectors like to get great GPUs like you already have for nostalgia.

I just wish they’d lower the post count for access to the Members Market! :mad:

Parkinson1NX · 1 Dec 2018 at 14:08

ilc72 said:
No problem, I still have my old OcUK system in the Corsair Carbide 540 with a Corsair 1200w PSU! You have a good base to start with an existing case, PSU, and AIO that are all perfectly good still as well as great storage. There are plenty of great channels on YouTube with step-by-step guides, just not Lyle (Bitwit’s alter ego)!

Also you maybe able to recoup some money on your existing GPU and CPU/Motherboard too! Collectors like to get great GPUs like you already have for nostalgia.

I just wish they’d lower the post count for access to the Members Market!

If it was yourself in my position what would be the upgrades you'd make? I'm not up to date with the new CPU and motherboards. GPUs I fully get still though. I like the idea of a 2080Ti for further future proofing myself.

ilc72 · 3 Dec 2018 at 00:32

Parkinson1NX said:
If it was yourself in my position what would be the upgrades you'd make? I'm not up to date with the new CPU and motherboards. GPUs I fully get still though. I like the idea of a 2080Ti for further future proofing myself.

Apologies for the late reply, there are a lot of reasons why I wouldn’t buy an RTX card, especially a RTX2080ti. If you can wait, I’d wait for CES 2019 and see what’s announced. NVIDIA are so concerned about sales and the issues, especially with FE RTX2080ti based cards they have started sending out a Titan RTX card to major tech influencers to try and change the negative perception that’s emerged.

It’s fairly certain that AMD will release Ryzen 3XXX processors on a new chipset supporting PCI-E 4.0 on a new X570 chipset based on new leaks from very credible sources.

If you can, pickup a GTX1080ti used, or if you do go RTX then go for the RTX2080, as it is more than sufficient for 1440p gaming. I know of a good solid sources for used GTX1080ti cards. Send me a PM if that’s of interest.

I would strongly suggest looking at Hardware Unboxed’s YouTube channel for their unbiased coverage. Also as long as you go for an OC model card there is very little overclocking headroom it’s not worth spending much more on the more expensive cards such as the ROG Strix RTX2080ti OC at £1,500 than lesser versions.

I would expect prices to start dropping as now the initial wave of early adopters have purchased, sales of the RTX2080ti have slowed.

Shashman · 3 Dec 2018 at 15:29

Would you recommend an RTX 2070 if it could be had for less than £500?

Parkinson1NX · 5 Dec 2018 at 20:20

ilc72 said:
Apologies for the late reply, there are a lot of reasons why I wouldn’t buy an RTX card, especially a RTX2080ti. If you can wait, I’d wait for CES 2019 and see what’s announced. NVIDIA are so concerned about sales and the issues, especially with FE RTX2080ti based cards they have started sending out a Titan RTX card to major tech influencers to try and change the negative perception that’s emerged.

It’s fairly certain that AMD will release Ryzen 3XXX processors on a new chipset supporting PCI-E 4.0 on a new X570 chipset based on new leaks from very credible sources.

If you can, pickup a GTX1080ti used, or if you do go RTX then go for the RTX2080, as it is more than sufficient for 1440p gaming. I know of a good solid sources for used GTX1080ti cards. Send me a PM if that’s of interest.

I would strongly suggest looking at Hardware Unboxed’s YouTube channel for their unbiased coverage. Also as long as you go for an OC model card there is very little overclocking headroom it’s not worth spending much more on the more expensive cards such as the ROG Strix RTX2080ti OC at £1,500 than lesser versions.

I would expect prices to start dropping as now the initial wave of early adopters have purchased, sales of the RTX2080ti have slowed.

Awesome thanks for the reply. I think I'll wait for 6 months, in the mean time I plan i buying a new case and customising it to my taste. Gives me time to think, save for a mega build and wait for CES 2019.

ilc72 · 9 Dec 2018 at 14:36

Parkinson1NX said:
Awesome thanks for the reply. I think I'll wait for 6 months, in the mean time I plan i buying a new case and customising it to my taste. Gives me time to think, save for a mega build and wait for CES 2019.

There are some fantastic cases around, depends on what you like. I love the Phanteks Evolv X, but the Lian-Li O11 Dynamic is a fantastic case engineered with 8-Pack’s German twin Der Bauer, or another great showcase.

If you fancy watercooling inspiration check out GGF Events and Singularity Computers on YouTube for some ideas, JayzTwoCents has some great watercooling videos for newcomers.

Best case reviews for Thermals, Noise etc. Is GamersNexus and but also Hardware Canucks do some good reviews. GamersNexus is doing their Best of 2018 series ......