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LOW FPS WITH VISTA BUT NOT WITH XP

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Hey guys im getting around 10-15fps lower in vista than in xp. I do not understand why but it also happened when i had my x800xl card i switched back to xp got a HIS x1950pro 512mb rev 2 and i still have *** same problem.

I have 2gb of ddr ram and 3ghz processor P4 at 25degreec celcius shall i overclock?
 
vista

Like raiderx said it uses more resources so unless you upgrade some of your hardware you will get less fps. This is a well known feature of Vista
 
Vista uses a totally different graphics set up and a DirectX 9 compatibility mode, you can't expect emulation to match straight DX9 in XP.

Resources aren't the problem, it's the way the software is designed for the future.
 
Dolph said:
Vista uses a totally different graphics set up and a DirectX 9 compatibility mode, you can't expect emulation to match straight DX9 in XP.

Resources aren't the problem, it's the way the software is designed for the future.
vista doesnt emulate DX9, it uses a DX9 version called DX9L for legacy support. Vista Aero uses it.
 
Cyber-Mav said:
odd, according to microsoft your vista gaming speed should be 6 times faster than xp? :confused:
thats using directx10 when using same settings as DX9 in XP, DX10 processes the same data but at a faster speed
 
RaiderX said:
also vista uses a lot more resources than XP so you would need a better CPU to equalize with XP

the legacy version of DX9 is emulated as far as i know, its not always slower, but drivers are maybe not up to scratch, or they think there isn't too much point. i mean, most cards x1900 series and up have very little trouble with almost every single dx9 title, so 10fps isn't really hurting most users once you get past the fact its irritating having lower performance.

as for uses more resources, i wish people would stop saying that just because they've read it.

it uses more memory for system cache, its not a hard drive, memory can be instantly released and overwriten in an instant. it generally only increases performance.

i forget exactly how much the kernal(which is the only actual footprint that the OS must keep) keeps in memory on XP, but right now in vista 64 with a bunch of stuff open, and a high def vid playing Vista has 134mb of the kernal in memory, 83 pages, 51mb non paged. so vista on its own is using 134MB memory, hardly resource hogging or over the top memory usage. have 15mb memory free , 1.3Gb is used as cache, rest is programs i have open. its extremely responsive and flicks between programs instantly. try vista before you run around saying vista is a resource hog.

the idea behind M$ talking of speed increases, as with all advertising you can use any stats to mislead people as it is theoretically true. the idea would be, in a while if you took a game that could run in dx9 and dx10 modes but had no different effects, and gave the exact end result the dx10 version on vista would run significantly faster than on dx9 on XP. now it will be very hard to prove, and will no doubt be something they found running an incredible specific game , most likely some gaming demo that showcases every single speed increase in DX10 and doesn't use anything else that might slow it down and won't be real world performance.
 
i guess i'm lucky. i can't tell the differernce in performance between xp and vista with the games i play. ony niggle in vista is no ability for force v-sync through the ati drivers.

i'm sure most people's problem with vista is psychological. they look at task manager and will quite often see just 0-20mb free physical memory and panic thinking vista is using it all... :p see above about caching. it's all good. :)
 
What resolution do you play at marc? My system plays Episode 1 at 1920*1200 fine, but add in the FSAA, and its a slideshow. Runs fine in XP with FSAA :)

Resolution plays a MASSIVE part on performance of games, it is definately not psychology ;)
 
eh? who mentioned resolution? :confused:

marc2003 said:
i guess i'm lucky. i can't tell the differernce in performance between xp and vista with the games i play.

and, that's my disclaimer. i only play at 1440x900 so that's not as taxing. :p

i'm guessing if your problem is FSAA related, that must surely be the drivers at fault, not the OS? :)

edit: ive just installed hl2:ep1 in vista and can play with the same settings as i did in xp just fine. all in game settings max, 4x aa, 8x af. bear in mind i'm on a sub 2ghz single core cpu, x1950pro agp setup. :D
 
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Yeah not having a go at the OS, just saying :D

Last drivers from nvidia have been a godsend in the performance area, really nice jump. Lets hope they fix the FSAA next :)
 
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