low price cpu for wow

[CAT-THE-FIFTH]

@ CAT the op is after a budget CPU for gaming, look at the graphs, under £50 notes gets you that performance, why spend anymore?

If you wanted to build a mid to high end rig that would be a different story..

The Haswell Pentiums are perfect for budget, low power PC's.

It since the performance charts are cherry picked and even by your purchases choices you go for a faster CPU with greater multi-threaded performance. Its one thing for WoW which runs two core but you do it in all threads.

Even games like Crysis3 and BF4 you would push them,even though after you actually play such games you would realise how much fail a dual core is in THOSE games.

Remember the last thread,where you went on how Intel had destroyed AMD's performance lead. Then people repeatedly told you that it was some issue,and in the end it was??

 

[Boomstick777]

It since the performance charts are cherry picked and even by your purchases choices you go for a faster CPU with greater multi-threaded performance. Its one thing for WoW but you do it in all threads.

Even games like Crysis3 and BF4 you would push them,even though after you actually play such games you would realise how much fail a dual core is in THOSE games.

I dunno mate, my boys use a Haswell Pentium build w 7850 2GB, have no problem playing all the latest games with decent settings. The OP isn't talking about BF4 or Crysis 3 either.

Remember this thread is about a budget CPU for wow. The Haswell G3420 is perfect for that at under £50.

 

[CAT-THE-FIFTH]

A Haswell Pentium or Haswell i3 would be a cheap decent CPU for any game tbh. Wouldn't bother with AMD at all atm

I dunno mate, my boys use a Haswell Pentium build w 7850 2GB, have no problem playing all the latest games with decent settings. The OP isn't talking about BF4 or Crysis 3 either.

Remember this thread is about a budget CPU for wowThe Haswell G3420 is perfect for that at under £50.

Ah,so that is why in post 11 you made a general statement about avoiding AMD CPUs for gaming and then posting benchmarks of a games,which the OP is not playing. Not a single MMO. The OP was not talking about other games too??

I have helped with 100s of builds online,and have experience using some of the newer AMD and Intel chips. It does make me wonder whether you have any clue about what games favour each type of chip.

It seems every thread is advertisement for how brilliant your Pentium dual core is including the post I am quoting. It seems if no one can afford a £140+ Core i5 it instantly means only the Pentium dual core,irrespective of any type of game,plus a dig at AMD and how great your new CPU is.

Its quite funny how people with Core i5 and Core i7 CPUs are posting threads about how intensive some games,regarding CPUs threads,and you yourself have a Xeon E3(like me).

So why not ditch the Xeon E3 and get a Pentium dual core?? Less power consumed,and money in the pocket. Seems a good deal.

 

[solado]

I dunno mate, my boys use a Haswell Pentium build w 7850 2GB, have no problem playing all the latest games with decent settings. The OP isn't talking about BF4 or Crysis 3 either.

Remember this thread is about a budget CPU for wow. The Haswell G3420 is perfect for that at under £50.

Have to agree with the Pentium for super budget.
Arn't Pentiums just an i3 with no hyper threading and slightly lower clock speeds?

 

[CAT-THE-FIFTH]

A Haswell Pentium or Haswell i3 would be a cheap decent CPU for any game tbh. Wouldn't bother with AMD at all atm

Have to agree with the Pentium for super budget.
Arn't Pentiums just an i3 with no hyper threading and slightly lower clock speeds?

He is not talking about super budget though. He is saying a Pentium dual core is preferable over any AMD CPU with ANY game.

 

[Rilot]

Give it a rest guys. Please.

 

[Dave2150]

OP there is a rumoured multi-threading update for WoW this year,so I would not get the Pentium dual core and at least get a Core i3.

Regarding AMD CPUs and WoW,I have a few mates with a couple of high end characters and they both upgraded to FX6300/FX6350 CPUs. They seem to get reasonable framerates from what I gather.

Do you have a DX11 graphics card??

DX11 actually increases framerates in WoW.



LOL.

There is no multicore/threading update planned for WoW. Not sure where you read this, but it's all rubbish.

For the next two years (Warlords of Draenor) and possible the next expansions, wow will continue to be a pretty much singlethread game.

 

[CAT-THE-FIFTH]

There is no multicore/threading update planned for WoW. Not sure where you read this, but it's all rubbish.

For the next two years (Warlords of Draenor) and possible the next expansions, wow will continue to be a pretty much singlethread game.

hi as for rest of system i will be getting a new mobo and ram too as rest of set up is fine,shes currently running a 560ti windforce so might sli in the future,she aint raided in sometime as she took a long break ,dont wanna be spending to much cash as its not like she spends a lot of time on the game,my budget is about £250 maybe 300 at a push before p&p

You mean like the people saying WoW would never get a DX11 update a few years ago? Oh wait,that was a significant change to an old engine. That was rumoured too. Or like when the primarily dual threaded PS2,within 2 weeks could use 4+ threads(thats SOE though). Blizzard is doing quite a bit of work on Titan ATM,and I expect them to use some of that with WoW. Its not like they can stand still can they,with the people they are hemorrhaging ATM. But of course,don't worry the OP can spend more money at that point,can't they!

Of course you also realise the test systems used in many reviews are minimum installs too,so wait until you have some background processes added to the mix.

If anything they can get a low end Core i5 for around £130 to £140,a £50 motherboard and 8GB of DDR3 and be good to go for a few years. Better single threaded performance than a Pentium dual core,and better multi-threaded performance. The OP said they had £250 to spend.

Even upgrading the rig in a few years time won't be any cheaper as a Haswell Core i5 will probably still be around £80 to £90 secondhand,and the Pentium dual core will be worth nothing. Plus you have no warranty on a secondhand CPU.

Considering how old the X2 5600+ is I suspect upgrades don't come too often for that rig. Its best to do in one go,especially as it his wife's desktop. If in another year or so the OP needs to upgrade the CPU,I wonder if she will be wondering why he did not just get a better one in the first place instead of faffing around.

Plus with newer MMOs out coming out in the next 2 years,based on modern engines,the Core i5 will be able to handle it. Titan most likely will not be single threaded.

 

[Dave2150]

You mean like the people saying WoW would never get a DX11 update a few years ago? Oh wait,that was a significant change to an old engine. That was rumoured too. Or like when the primarily dual threaded PS2,within 2 weeks could use 4+ threads(thats SOE though). Blizzard is doing quite a bit of work on Titan ATM,and I expect them to use some of that with WoW. Its not like they can stand still can they,with the people they are hemorrhaging ATM. But of course,don't worry the OP can spend more money at that point,can't they!

Of course you also realise the test systems used in many reviews are minimum installs too,so wait until you have some background processes added to the mix.

If anything they can get a low end Core i5 for around £130 to £140,a £50 motherboard and 8GB of DDR3 and be good to go for a few years. Better single threaded performance than a Pentium dual core,and better multi-threaded performance. The OP said they had £250 to spend.

Even upgrading the rig in a few years time won't be any cheaper as a Haswell Core i5 will probably still be around £80 to £90 secondhand,and the Pentium dual core will be worth nothing. Plus you have no warranty on a secondhand CPU.

Considering how old the X2 5600+ is I suspect upgrades don't come too often for that rig. Its best to do in one go,especially as it his wife's desktop. If in another year or so the OP needs to upgrade the CPU,I wonder if she will be wondering why he did not just get a better one in the first place instead of faffing around.

Plus with newer MMOs out coming out in the next 2 years,based on modern engines,the Core i5 will be able to handle it. Titan most likely will not be single threaded.

You're ramblings are all purely speculation. Yes they added dx11 - but thats far easier than making the whole game truly multi-threaded.

Also, those who tested the WoD demo at blizzcon and other event after it, confirm it's the same threads as currently.

I'd like a link to whatever source you claim to have seen, though I'm pretty confident you'll be unable to provide one, and instead make up excuses.

 

[alex_123_fra]

I agree with CAT. I'd be astounded if Titan is single/2-threaded.

I also don't think WoW will live past the next expansion. If it survives the next expansion, I'll be pleasantly surprised.

In terms of updates to WoW, there have been loads graphically over the time the game has existed and hence the requirements in terms of hardware have changed since launch. The system requirements when WoW launched were an 800MHz CPU with 256MB RAM and a 32MB graphics card. Today, the bare minimum requirements are a dual core CPU with 2GB of RAM and a 256MB graphics card. TBC showed textures and models vastly improve over original WoW. WoTLK showed further improvements in models and textures. Cata had new water rendering and sun shafts and better models. Mists had better lighting, shadow systems and animation in models with improved textures. The latter expansion actually requires quite powerful hardware to run on absolute maxxed settings especially in areas where there are lots of players (cities) or raids. I have to turn settings down in my overclocked 3930k system to raid at over 60 fps constantly.

To the OP, if your wife only ever plans to play Wow, sure enough a cheap i3 will suffice in most cases although she will still not play with much eye candy turned up especially in the latter expansions. With the new expansion, requirements will go up again even if the engine is still 1-2 threaded. Her locked i3 will have nowhere to go at that point and hence my original suggestion of a used i5 2500k which gives her an upgrade path and good overclockability. Far less likely to need new hardware with that for many years and who knows, if she eventually enjoys any other games (MMO or other), she will be able to play those decently too.

 

[Dave2150]

I agree with CAT. I'd be astounded if Titan is single/2-threaded.

I also don't think WoW will live past the next expansion. If it survives the next expansion, I'll be pleasantly surprised.

In terms of updates to WoW, there have been loads graphically over the time the game has existed and hence the requirements in terms of hardware have changed since launch. The system requirements when WoW launched were an 800MHz CPU with 256MB RAM and a 32MB graphics card. Today, the bare minimum requirements are a dual core CPU with 2GB of RAM and a 256MB graphics card. TBC showed textures and models vastly improve over original WoW. WoTLK showed further improvements in models and textures. Cata had new water rendering and sun shafts and better models. Mists had better lighting, shadow systems and animation in models with improved textures. The latter expansion actually requires quite powerful hardware to run on absolute maxxed settings especially in areas where there are lots of players (cities) or raids. I have to turn settings down in my overclocked 3930k system to raid at over 60 fps constantly.

To the OP, if your wife only ever plans to play Wow, sure enough a cheap i3 will suffice in most cases although she will still not play with much eye candy turned up especially in the latter expansions. With the new expansion, requirements will go up again even if the engine is still 1-2 threaded. Her locked i3 will have nowhere to go at that point and hence my original suggestion of a used i5 2500k which gives her an upgrade path and good overclockability. Far less likely to need new hardware with that for many years and who knows, if she eventually enjoys any other games (MMO or other), she will be able to play those decently too.

Of course Titan will be multi-threaded, if it ever does get released. I don't think anyone in this thread said it wouldn't, hence my confusion why you mention this.

To the OP, as I posted previously - firstly establish what content your wife will be doing in WoW. Will she be raiding? if so, 10man or 25man?

25man requires a fast cpu to perform well - even though the graphics may not be great, the core engine of the game is old and so you require at least an I5 for 25mans. I'd go as far as recommending an Haswell I7 cpu - WoW would really make great use of it.

If your wife is not planning to raid, then an AMD or I3 will do just fine.

 

[Boomstick777]

Have to agree with the Pentium for super budget.
Arn't Pentiums just an i3 with no hyper threading and slightly lower clock speeds?

Yeah, great lil chips, ideal for a budget gaming PC..

To go higher you have to spend so much more, Haswell Pentium G3420 is £47. The next tier above and your talking like £80+, for a basic gaming rig it's not worth almost double the price tbh.

If we're talking mid to high end gaming PC's like CAT seems to be mentioning, then I5, FX 8320 etc all have their place, at the lower end, Pentium's hold best bang for buck atm imo.