lying on your CV

iraiguana · 17 Jun 2008 at 14:17

You can omit qualifications from your CV. No one would care about you doing this as it does no harm really. I would add it as a simple bullet point in the skills section to show you have done it and have moved on from it.

To omit is not the same as lying.

Mr-White · 17 Jun 2008 at 14:32

ok now i've established that i can remove certs from my cv, the next question: is this a good idea ?

MW

Mickey · 17 Jun 2008 at 14:39

Mr-White said:
ok now i've established that i can remove certs from my cv, the next question: is this a good idea ?

MW

No, it's not a good idea. What you should be doing is thinking of ways to pad out your experience and get the jobs you're qualified for.

Hellsmk2 · 17 Jun 2008 at 14:40

If it gets you the job you want, then yes. Daft question really...

Mickey · 17 Jun 2008 at 14:50

Hellsmk2 said:
If it gets you the job you want, then yes. Daft question really...

It really doesn't sound like it is the job he wants, just that he's finding it hard to get the job he actually wants.

Mr-White · 17 Jun 2008 at 14:51

i would definitely rather pad out my expereince but as ive just left my current job as it didnt work out gaining exp without a job is gonna be difficult.

i would rather take a lower paid job that gives good exp and training than one that pays more but im finding employers want exp but they're not willing to give it.

MW

Mickey · 17 Jun 2008 at 15:04

Mr-White said:
i would definitely rather pad out my expereince but as ive just left my current job as it didnt work out gaining exp without a job is gonna be difficult.

i would rather take a lower paid job that gives good exp and training than one that pays more but im finding employers want exp but they're not willing to give it.

MW

I'm sure if you really think about it you have plenty of experience to talk about, think about all the times you've fixed things for friends/family, you've been doing freelance tech support for years

Talk about the personal experience you have, even just exaggerating the importance or scale of tasks you have been doing in your previous jobs will probably bag you the job you want. Remember, the key to getting the job you want is learning how to sell yourself.

NicNac · 17 Jun 2008 at 15:58

So If I put down on my CV that I hunt great white sharks and tame lions I wont get the job

[TR]SweetSpotOz · 17 Jun 2008 at 16:05

Mr-White · 17 Jun 2008 at 16:31

markyp23 said:
I have absolutely never and will never lie on a CV. What is the need?

because when an employer sees my CV either it gets binned coz im too qualified or i get offered stupidly high paid jobs that require lots of experience. i dont know why because MCSEs arent that hard to pass, my degree was more difficult

MW

Zefan · 17 Jun 2008 at 16:32

Mr-White said:
because when an employer sees my CV either it gets binned coz im too qualified or i get offered stupidly high paid jobs that require lots of experience.

I've never understood this. It sounds like a way of saying "Sorry we didn't like you" without saying it.

Mr-White · 17 Jun 2008 at 16:51

Zefan said:
I've never understood this. It sounds like a way of saying "Sorry we didn't like you" without saying it.

there is probably some truth in that but one interview i had in the week kept saying i was rather technical (was mainly first line support job) and kept asking how long would i stay and then the IT questions they asked were fairly basic.

MW

achitophel · 17 Jun 2008 at 16:53

Mr-White said:
because when an employer sees my CV either it gets binned coz im too qualified or i get offered stupidly high paid jobs that require lots of experience. i dont know why because MCSEs arent that hard to pass, my degree was more difficult

MW

As someone who does interview others, one thing I look for is continuity. So be careful if you decide to leave a several jobs out, since this would leave significant time gaps in the CV. Personally I'd

a) certainly ask about the gap periods in your CV during the interview, and

b) if you were in any way evasive about the gaps, I'd assume that you'd been sacked from one of the other places and that would be that, or

c) if you then admitted the experience, I'd be wondering why you hadn't put down clearly relevant experience in the CV to start with, which would also start the danger signals pulsing!

Zefan · 17 Jun 2008 at 16:53

How did you answer those questions? I really just don't see how having too many qualifications is a bad thing.

Mr-White · 17 Jun 2008 at 17:04

Zefan said:
How did you answer those questions? I really just don't see how having too many qualifications is a bad thing.

i have no long gaps in my cv and all my experience on my cv is everything i have, ive never lied about anything in an inerview or my cv.

employers wont long term commitment which they dont think i can give them dispite telling them over wise. i'm assuming that because my qualifications out weighs my experience they think ill leave once ive gained all the experience i can.

MW

Dugganator · 17 Jun 2008 at 17:28

Mr-White said:
i currently have a degree in IT, an MCSE, security clearance and currently studying for a CCNA.

MW

Wow Kent must have a well high standard for IT just from the quailifactions you have you should be getting 3rd line jobs or nailing high 2nd line jobs. The problem with Jobs in IT is if the people who you are interviewing with are giving techincal exams they normally take the best person for the lowest money. So have a good think of what your asking for price wise for the job before you ask for the max.

Sometimes it is just luck of the draw with regards to interviews. I mean interivews have all sorts of reasons they wont hirer people even thou they wont say it.

How many years have you been working in IT for now?

Mr-White · 17 Jun 2008 at 17:49

i commute into central london

have 2-3 years experience of which 1-2 years 1st/2nd support and 1 year i was repairing cisco, nortel and 3com networking equipment

MW

Dugganator · 17 Jun 2008 at 21:55

Only real advice for IT is revise for interviews not all will test you but most do in IT. If you dont know the answer simple say so as most interviews will hate some one trying to blag there way for the interview. keep trying thou I'm sure something will come up. good luck

Mr-White · 17 Jun 2008 at 23:13

most agencies warn you in advance if theres going to be a test.

pre interview tests have never been a problem, have done about 4-5 and every one ive done ive atleast had an interview for

MW

jas72 · 17 Jun 2008 at 23:14

Mr-White said:
i know it not good to lie about things you havent got but is it ok lying about things you have got ?

i currently have a degree in IT, an MCSE, security clearance and currently studying for a CCNA.

All my jobs have been 1st/2nd line support which is more hands on remote support than stuck with a phone all day. the problem ive got is the junior 1st line roles basically say i'm too qualifed and technical and wont stay long enough to be worth employing but if i apply for more advanced/technical 2nd line jobs i always get told i interview well but someone with more experience got the job.

so now im stuck

MW

worked for the Apprentice..