Mac Ad a little too accurate?

it's a rubbish opinion piece that goes down well because of the number of people who use PCs and are jealous of our shiny Macs of course!

ironic in the guardian to be honest, it's the sort of paper read by people who're likely to have a mac in many ways...
 
bigredshark said:
it's a rubbish opinion piece that goes down well because of the number of people who use PCs and are jealous of our shiny Macs of course!
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The ultimate response is always, of course, "It's just jealousy" :)
ironic in the guardian to be honest, it's the sort of paper read by people who're likely to have a mac in many ways...
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Which, I imagine, is partly the reason that he wrote it. Sensible, grown up Guardian readers who use Macs will get the irony and chuckle but it appears the humour was lost on those that frequent OCUK forums.
 
mosfet said:
Couldn't be more wrong. The Guardian embraced technology long before many other papers and maintain an excellent website and technology section. They were also one of the first publications to open up their archives and use podcasts and a broadcast medium.

The BBC have gone to extraordinary lengths to use new technologies, they have one of the most innovative and advanced computing departments of any organisation in the country. They're consistantly on the front line of technology journalism and maintain an excellent website.

How incredibly arrogant to make such a comment about an organisation because they linked to an article that contained a view opposed to your own.
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no actually i think you're wrong and missed the point, while they may have a good it department and web design team in both cases, they journalists who cover technology are poor beyond belief. the register et al manage to come up with great technology coverage, that the bbc can't hire someone to an equivilent standard is crazy. the tech stories are light on detail and pretty often light on accuracy (particularly the bbc).

while they might be doing great things with technology in the background they can't write articals about it for toffee...
 
bigredshark said:
no actually i think you're wrong and missed the point, while they may have a good it department and web design team in both cases, they journalists who cover technology are poor beyond belief. the register et al manage to come up with great technology coverage, that the bbc can't hire someone to an equivilent standard is crazy. the tech stories are light on detail and pretty often light on accuracy (particularly the bbc).

while they might be doing great things with technology in the background they can't write articals about it for toffee...
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Who is the target demographic of the BBC? How about el Reg or l'Inq?

They are aimed at completely different audiences. The BBC is there to report news in a way that Joe public will understand without losing too much detail. They do this rather well - well enough for sites such as the Register or Digg to regularly use as sources.
 
Macs are crap! They are toss compared to a computer that can be programmed to do anything even though unstable.. PC's can run windows!! Windows! Windows!!
setup ache!, easily corrupts, needs activating and serials and all this crap. Has more mb's worth of fixes than the primary install. Need a driver for everything. too much access to everything you couldnt give a flying """" about.

Nothing is free on it. expect clock and calculator.
And you wont get to play with them if its not activated!!

A Mac is a complete package to suit everyone unless your a super nerd who wants to read binary more than live his/her life.

to be honest im just as sad for replying in these things but you will find the smallest reason to hate a mac when there are an unlimted amount of reasons to dispise a pc.
 
mosfet said:
Who is the target demographic of the BBC? How about el Reg or l'Inq?

They are aimed at completely different audiences. The BBC is there to report news in a way that Joe public will understand without losing too much detail. They do this rather well - well enough for sites such as the Register or Digg to regularly use as sources.
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thats a very obvious argument but even so, the coverage is plain rubbish, sure, it needs to be so that joe public understands it, but the simplification of their content goes too far
 
bigredshark said:
thats a very obvious argument but even so, the coverage is plain rubbish, sure, it needs to be so that joe public understands it, but the simplification of their content goes too far
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It's not an 'obvious argument', it's a factual statement:

The BBC and IT industry journals have different target audiences.

To expect that the BBC should cover IT to anywhere near the depth or breadth that specific IT publications do is ridiculous. Should they also be expected to cover other indstrusties in similar detail?

They cover many aspects of science and technology that other websites don't even consider simply because they actually have reporters in the field whereas many journals only rely on insider knowledge.

Edit: Getting completely off topic now. At the end of the day AJUK criticised the BBC for no other reason than the fact that they linked to an column by someone who disagrees with him - the reporting of the BBC is not the topic of discussion.
 
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mosfet said:
It's not an 'obvious argument', it's a factual statement:

The BBC and IT industry journals have different target audiences.

To expect that the BBC should cover IT to anywhere near the depth or breadth that specific IT publications do is ridiculous. Should they also be expected to cover other indstrusties in similar detail?

They cover many aspects of science and technology that other websites don't even consider simply because they actually have reporters in the field whereas many journals only rely on insider knowledge.

Edit: Getting completely off topic now. At the end of the day AJUK criticised the BBC for no other reason than the fact that they linked to an column by someone who disagrees with him - the reporting of the BBC is not the topic of discussion.
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Well you could argue the people who look at the technology section of the bbc news site are actually a much more similar demographic all the specialist tech news sites than you're suggesting.

Actually, and the reason I took issue with your comment, i don't think he criticised the bbc because they said something he didn't like, i think he did because he has the view (as expressed in his post i would say) that the bbc doesn't report well on technology issues. Which isn't exactly a rare opinion in my experience.
 
And all that Mac users come together to have a cry.

As a Windows/Linux/BSD and former Mac user (OS4ish maybe it was 6) am I the only one to see the humorous side to that article?

"Macs are glorified Fisher-Price activity centres for adults"

A truly great line.

You have these ads that spread FUD about PCs and Windows, yet can't take any back in return? It works both ways you know.
 
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fumbles said:
And all that Mac users come together to have a cry.

As a Windows/Linux/BSD and former Mac user (OS4ish maybe it was 6) am I the only one to see the humorous side to that article?

"Macs are glorified Fisher-Price activity centres for adults"

A truly great line.

You have these ad's that spread FUD about PC's and Windows, yet can't take any back in return? It works both ways you know.
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As humourous as I can see it, I don't see the adverts taking the **** out of PC users?
 
Dr Jones said:
As humourous as I can see it, I don't see the adverts taking the **** out of PC users?
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I think he's refering to the "I'm a Mac, I'm a PC" adverts. Attacking the platform, rather than the user.

fumbles, no apostrophe in 'Ads' or 'PCs'.
 
fumbles said:
"Macs are glorified Fisher-Price activity centres for adults"

A truly great line.
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5 years ago maybe. He could at least come up with some original arguments.
 
bigredshark said:
ironic in the guardian to be honest, it's the sort of paper read by people who're likely to have a mac in many ways...
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Not anymore, stopped reading the Guardian about a year ago, the Independent for the win!

edit: that's about the same time as I bought my iBook :eek:
 
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burnsy2023 said:
Indeed, the question is, would Windows users defend their OS as passionatly as Mac users?

Burnsy
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No. I know windows has security holes, but at least it's stable and I can play games on it. Software is widely available. I'm not paying over the odds for hardware. I've used mac's and they're designed for computer illeterate people. I didn't like the way it does things, multi tasking wasen't working either. I had to wait until photoshop finished applying the filter, I couldn't switch to word processor whilst it was doing this. :rolleyes:
 
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