*****Mac OSX on PC Threads*****

so you can run it on a mac, with intel hardware. but not on a pc with intel hardware.


tbh, who wants to use mac stuff anyway? it's even more fisher price than windows. (ok, at least it works)
 
Phnom_Penh said:
I dunno, if osx is as good as people claim, could it not rival windows?
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That's always been my take on it as well, surely it would make more sense to convert people with the OS which can only mean more money through OS sales and further hardware purchases from convertees?

I'm sure Jobs has done things this way for a reason, but I can't for the life of me think of any reason for his current strategy that would outweigh the pros of outstretching to a wider target audience. Unless Jobs really has that "nur nur, Macs are better than smelly PCs" mentality...

They've already built one bridge to the PC world with BootCamp so why not back the other way? :confused:
 
The cheapest apple hardware is the mac mini @ £399 so even assuming everyone bought this for their Mac, they would need to sell 4 copies of leopard to make up for the loss in hardware revenue. Now when you consider the average cost of a mac is more around £1000 (made up but not hard to imagine considering the prices on their site), they would need to sell over 10 copies to make up the hardware revenue lost.

There would need to be a massive uptake in people using OS-X on non-mac hardware to make it worth while.
 
fothsn said:
Bang on, totally unjustified as to why Microsoft gets fined huge amount's and nobody bats an eyelid at apple?
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The bigger apple become the more attention they will receive. It is only a matter of time.

I feel that apple have a good future and will certainly will have a healthy market share in next few years. It’s nice to see companies such as MS and Apply pushing new technologies.
 
JonRohan said:
The bigger apple become the more attention they will receive. It is only a matter of time.

I feel that apple have a good future and will certainly will have a healthy market share in next few years. It’s nice to see companies such as MS and Apply pushing new technologies.
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Yes fully agree time will tell I suppose & maybe apple will see sense to start selling an OSX compatible OS for PC’s doesn’t have to be the same found on apple hardware but come to a compromise, after all a Microsoft OS can be installed on apple hardware legally.
 
Rebelius said:
basically, if you could get OSX to run on ANY hardware, you wouldn't buy over-priced mac hardware after you decided you liked it, would you?
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People would. Why do people buy an Audi A3? The vast majority of the parts are identical to the Skoda Octavia yet the Audi costs a significant amount more.

There's a couple of major snags to opening up OS X.
1) Apple would have to support the millions of different types of PCs out there. The say 20 odd variants of Mac that they support on Leopard suddenly seems very simple in comparison. The price of Leopard would have to increase to cover the additional support costs.

You've seen the amount of moaning as regards Vista driver support (was also the same with 95, NT4 and 2000 when they launched) - OS X would be many times worse. Sound and graphics would be a major problem. And this is before you get to the Applications.

2) An Intel Mac isn't a standard PC clone. It uses a lot of the same off the shelf components from Intel, but Apple wisely removed bits of legacy crap they didn't need like a traditional BIOS.
 
It's not really support or economics that apple use to justify their decision, it's the fact that (in theory, cough, leopard upgrade) osX on mac hardware just works. Everything works fine out of the box and that user experience is priceless, even if they doubled their market share, if they lost that 'just works' impression it would be a disaster for them.

There's actually talk that the server version of leopard will have a EULA which permits virtualised installations of osX. The question will obviously be, virtualised on what? If it's VMWare I think thats a good deal and it'd be sensible to extend it to demo version of the desktop os. VMWare is useless for graphics and media so it's never going to canabalise sales but it shows people how the OS works (then again, how useful is that with a keyboard which doesn't have the apples keys.)
 
It's not standard hardware that they have due to the EFI rather then BIOS.

Having said that, when there is generic Vista support for EFI then will become standard hardware.
 
EFI is already supported by most Intel chipsets, but for obvious reasons most board manufacturers don't implement it. There were a couple of Gateway machines that ran a BIOS inside EFI to boot Windows, but I don't know if that's common practice.

All Itanium systems use EFI.
 
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