Madness in the fast lane

how can that woman get hit by 2 cars at motorway speeds and can still fight of police. people hit at 30 are killed yet she doesnt even get a broken bone.
 
Ceryndrion said:
Robbie G, I get the impression that this is really upsetting you, so I am going to point out yet another flaw in your carefully selected footage.

Watch the original video from Traffic Cops, and you will have noticed that the police were called in, by the highways agency, after the two girls had run across the carriageway. I do not disagree that they were there when they decided to run back into traffic, but you seem to think that the police were there from the beginning and watched it all, which they weren't, and did not. They arrived later, when the girls were at the side of the road, and thus needed to be brought up to speed by the HA officer that was present at the time.
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'Carefully selected footage'? I really didn't have to be very selective to rubbish your comment about 'officers of the highways agency were sent to stop them, the highways agency if I recall, have absolutely no powers to detain' - so what? The police do, and they were also at the scene before the women ran off yet again.

The police had already been informed by the roadside camera operators that the girls appeared to run into the traffic when challenged (a fact you seem to keep ignoring)---what more warning would you have liked the police to be given?

I will ignore your last paragraph as it's just yet more asininity.
 
Just watched this on bbc iplayer..absolutely ****ing crazy stuff going on there:eek:...5 yrs for killing a guy is about right for our pathetic justice system.

Crazy stuff indeed though.
 
Robbie G said:
'Carefully selected footage'? I really didn't have to be very selective to rubbish your comment about 'officers of the highways agency were sent to stop them, the highways agency if I recall, have absolutely no powers to detain' - so what? The police do, and they were also at the scene before the women ran off yet again.

The police had already been informed by the roadside camera operators that the girls appeared to run into the traffic when challenged (a fact you seem to keep ignoring)---what more warning would you have liked the police to be given?

I will ignore your last paragraph as it's just yet more asininity.
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The highways agency were sent originally, to remove them from the central reservation, at that time, it was not a police matter.

Trespass is not a criminal offence, it is a civil offence.

Running infront of traffice, is stupid, again, not a crime.

The police were called in because the situation warranted it.

The camera operators can only give minimal information based upon what their cameras can see, which is not a great deal.

Thus the officers, upon arriving, decided to speak to the person who was there, and could use his own eyes, to see what had happened until that point.


Again, I will submit to your opinion that they should have broken out the uzi's and gunned them down at the side of the road.
 
lol robbieG, armchair cop.

Anyway Ive never seen anything like that in my life. ever.

I think the documentary actually ends up posing more questions than answers.

Why do BOTH the twins go mental when together?

Why were they living so apart from each other for years?

What about the partner in Ireland? did they know she was crazy?

Why are they not deported back to Sweden?

Why are we picking up her detainment costs?

How come they still "maintain" contact but hadnt seen each other for ages?

What was REALLY wrong with their mental state? What did they think was going to happen?



The ONLY thing thats consistent across the whole thing is they both attacked anyone who tried to help them. They seemed genuinely scared and fearful for their own lives throughout the whole thing.

The psycological assesment seems utterly inconclusive.

The only thing that would make any sense in this utterly bizarre, and crazy story is that they were both abducted by aliens who tried to take their organs or something. This traumatised them so much that they went nuts.

Surely thats just as plausible as crap like "puffs of insanity" ?!!

Its a complelling story, but I would like more answers.
 
People have survived jumping off 20 storey buildings. The cars they landed on were completely destroyed but they walked away.

The guy trying to commit suicide changed his mind and walked off

The more the surface you land on deforms the more time is available to spread out the impact
 
Ceryndrion said:
The highways agency were sent originally, to remove them from the central reservation, at that time, it was not a police matter.

Trespass is not a criminal offence, it is a civil offence.

Running infront of traffice, is stupid, again, not a crime.

The police were called in because the situation warranted it.

The camera operators can only give minimal information based upon what their cameras can see, which is not a great deal.

Thus the officers, upon arriving, decided to speak to the person who was there, and could use his own eyes, to see what had happened until that point.


Again, I will submit to your opinion that they should have broken out the uzi's and gunned them down at the side of the road.
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Did you watch the documentary? The camera operators relayed the fact that the women had apparently deliberately stepped into motorway traffic. It's blindingly obvious that this could become more than a simple trespass matter.

The police are not there only to react to a crime, but to be proactive when there is a reasonable chance of a crime being committed.

It's not an offence to balance a brick over the egde of a motorway bridge, but a passing policeman would prevent you from doing so for much longer.

Regarding the uzi comment, you can always tell when someone's floundering when they start resorting to ridiculous extensions...e.g. implying that I fully support the use of uzis to control trespassing.

TangoSixteen said:
lol robbieG, armchair cop.
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Impressive contribution to the discussion.
 
I think the reason Robbie is getting so animated about this, is because the biggest casualty in all of this was a VW.


:p
 
Robbie G said:
Did you watch the documentary? The camera operators relayed the fact that the women had apparently deliberately stepped into motorway traffic. It's blindingly obvious that this could become more than a simple trespass matter.

The police are not there only to react to a crime, but to be proactive when there is a reasonable chance of a crime being committed.

It's not an offence to balance a brick over the egde of a motorway bridge, but a passing policeman would prevent you from doing so for much longer.

Regarding the uzi comment, you can always tell when someone's floundering when they start resorting to ridiculous extensions...e.g. implying that I fully support the use of uzis to control trespassing.

Impressive contribution to the discussion.
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Yes, I did watch the documentary, and have subsequently rewatched and verified the information within the footage.

The camera operators relayed what they could 'guess' at, to such an extent that the police officer stated that the information coming from them was "sketchy at best".

Yes, it is a police officers job, to be proactive at the prevention of a crime, but there was no reasonable grounds to believe at that time, that the two sisters were about to turn around and run into a busy carriageway, whether they had done so once already is not the point. And seems to be the point that you don't much care about, since you want to blame the police for failing to prevent them from acting the way they did. There was nothing in their behaviour that suggested to the officers on scene, that the two women would attempt to run infront of traffic for a second, or even a third time, and later of course, the paramedic who approached sabina, should he have used a tazer or a baton to subdue her before she jumped off that bridge?

You want to see things from one very blinkered perspective, so go ahead, blame the police for the failure of the crystal ball crime prevention unit.

And yes I did deliberately take your point to the ridiculous extreme, and why shouldn't I, you were doing just the same in saying that the police failed in their duty to restrain the women. In fact, if you listened to one of the officers on the scene, she stated that she did consider using her baton, but decided against it for fear of causing further injury.

But whatever, you have your opinion, I have mine, and we will not agree on this.
 
I know this sounds cruel but i wish those two women did die, they are a risk to society, the fact that one of them the truck women is out there free and the other will be out in 5 years is quite scary, these women are mental and need help, but instead they will be out walking freely, they'll probably be on the news again in 5 years time when they decide to get together after the jailed women gets out and go on another mentalistic spree. Whats scary is that the jailed women i believe was living with a partner and his kids! in ireland.

I'm still shocked that the two women especially the murderer managed to survive three accidents on the motorway and 40ft jump! most people would die geting hit by a car travelling at 30mph, absolutely bizzare case, the cops are quite often heavy handed in smaller things yet two women managed to do all that without much aggression from the cops.

(By the was the silver car that one of the women was not a golf, it was a polo! :p)
 
She literally got away with murder. She'll be walking the streets again next year after murdering an innocent man.
 
I remember seeing the program with that and and just watched this. Absolutely crazy made me get a weird feeling in my stomach :(
 
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