Make 3 E3 2017 game predictions

Says who? The fact of the matter is that the original Xbox One is so underpowered that the more powerful graphics processor can run what the original could at 4k. It will still be vastly inferior to the PC, ultra turned down settings. Also you notice all the stylised games that they showed? There is a reason for that, all the Xbox One X is rubbish graphics at a higher resolution.

one thing total biscuit pointed out, only one game was mentioned to have 4l60fps and that was forza. everything else is probably 30.
 
Says who? The fact of the matter is that the original Xbox One is so underpowered that the more powerful graphics processor can run what the original could at 4k. It will still be vastly inferior to the PC, ultra turned down settings. Also you notice all the stylised games that they showed? There is a reason for that, all the Xbox One X is rubbish graphics at a higher resolution.
Well obviously it will be inferior to the PC as you can spend a lot more money on PC just on one component. My point was games are more optimised on consoles and you get more out the graphics card. I would be surprised to see a RX 480 running at the same fps, resolution and IQ on the PC. We will see soon I guess :)
 
one thing total biscuit pointed out, only one game was mentioned to have 4l60fps and that was forza. everything else is probably 30.

I might be wrong on this but it seems that racing games are a lot easier to get running nicely.

Well obviously it will be inferior to the PC as you can spend a lot more money on PC just on one component. My point was games are more optimised on consoles and you get more out the graphics card. I would be surprised to see a RX 480 running at the same fps, resolution and IQ on the PC. We will see soon I guess :)

A bit yes but not much, most defiantly no where anywhere even close to turning an RX 480 into a GTX 1080.
 
I might be wrong on this but it seems that racing games are a lot easier to get running nicely.

A bit yes but not much, most defiantly no where anywhere even close to turning an RX 480 into a GTX 1080.

yeah seems odd that driving games seem easier to hit 60fps, could be a thing to do with how the clutter on the side of the road is low res or something as it zips by you wouldnt notice.

as for what the gpu is inside and what you need on a pc to match it, well depending what sort of 4k output the games are actually doing you can get away with a gtx1060 to match and even beat a ps4 pro it seems, digital foundry did a video on it last week.

so until we know what the games are actually out putting its hard to say what you'd need to match it but i wouldnt be surprised if a 1080 would do the job very well.
 
Looks like a great year or 2 for games, lets just hope come release day they aren't as terrible as the last 1-2 years of AAA games i.e. broken and poorly optimized on release day that takes months to fix :p :o

Main stand outs for me:

- metro
- wolfenstein
- anthem
- assassins creed, wasn't impressed though, looked graphically worse than unity I thought and even more arcadey but I love that setting so will wait and see.....
- battlefront 2

And we haven't even see what ubi have yet?! Although if the rumours going around are correct, to add to the above list:

- splinter cell
- and of course FC 5

I'll need to try and get through my huge back log of games before all these hit.

Forza Apex was incredible on Windows 10 mate

Did that game not have some issues with CPUs though?

But yeah it looked stunning.

They get a hell of a lot more out of console hardware though. You would never get a RX 480 running those games at 4K on PC, probably would need a 1080 to maintain same fps and visual quality.

This.

Just look at PS 4 exclusives, stunning looking games and the somewhat PC equivalents i.e. rise of the tomb raider need a beefy PC to run with at least a "constant" 50+ FPS and this is only for 1080/1440 resolution, for 4k......

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That's using dx 12 too.
 
Did that game not have some issues with CPUs though?

But yeah it looked stunning.

No, that was Forza Horizon 3

Apex I can run 1440p maxed out with 8xaa and hit over 100fps. That's amazing optimisation for a single 390 which lets face it is pretty much only a mid range gpu.
 
You can't compare PC and console version of games direct. It's not like they use the same level of detail, technology and features.
You'd have to run them side-by-side and scale down the PC settings until it looks like the console settings before benchmarking, and that's just by eye.

The advantage consoles have is that the game gets written/optimised for the console. For PC release they have to take into account different OS, Graphics cards and CPUs. So they inevitably run well optimised from the get-go on consoles.
 
No, that was Forza Horizon 3

Apex I can run 1440p maxed out with 8xaa and hit over 100fps. That's amazing optimisation for a single 390 which lets face it is pretty much only a mid range gpu.

Ah yeah that was it, too many forza titles :p

Indeed, very impressive optimisation there :cool:

I think the best game for me in terms of graphics and performance is still GTA 5, just breath taking that game.

SWBF and BF 1 are pretty damn good too but obviously a lot more linear/closed in than GTA 5.
 
Re: racing games looking so good. Surely it has a lot to do with the car models having very few moving parts, whereas living (for want of a better word) things have far more complex animation and movement?
 
It's a RX 480, so a budget card from 2016. Yeah a real beast.

It's an RX480 on steroids (coupled with 8 CPU cores), more like what an RX490 would have looked liked if AMD wanted to release one, also it's custom built around DX12 meaning games will hardly have any overhead unlike DX11 on the PC.

I've given up on ever seeing another Half Life game or Xwing/Tie-Fighter sim, over the last few years we've been given an Elite title and Chris Roberts has made a come back with Star Citazen but I'm getting to long in the tooth these days. E3 has long lost it's magic now it's limited to only the press.
 
Says who? The fact of the matter is that the original Xbox One is so underpowered that the more powerful graphics processor can run what the original could at 4k. It will still be vastly inferior to the PC, ultra turned down settings. Also you notice all the stylised games that they showed? There is a reason for that, all the Xbox One X is rubbish graphics at a higher resolution.

https://www.motherboardpoint.com/th...360-revolution-and-the-competition-ps3.84748/

It's old but still relevant.
 
It's an RX480 on steroids (coupled with 8 CPU cores),

8 rather weak cpu cores even with the boost in speed. the thing is with consoles games are written better for them as they have a fixed set of hardware, thankfully for us pcgamers we should get much better cross over now as both ps4 and xbox use pc know how with a few software tweaks thrown in so we should get better multi cpu support and with xbox stuff especially using dx12 hopefully better graphical code.
 
I thought there was loads of games in the Xbox conference I'm looking forward to playing on PC. The pixel based,blade runner looking game was interesting as was the guitar platformer. As interesting as the Xbox X looks, I have a 3440x1440 monitor and a 1080ti so I will get to play all the games anyway. I sold my XB1 as all the games I wanted to play on it were on Windows 10 as well and also cross buy so should I decide to pick up another Xbox I already have a few games for it.

Compared to a few years ago, things look a lot better for us PC gamers with MS showing a suprising amount of support for the platform. They've made planty of mistakes in the past but Phil Spencer has turned that ship around I think.
 
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