Making one Ethernet socket into lots??

irving1994

irving1994

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My university offers one Ethernet socket in my room, once connected to the socket i have a program called Cisco NAC that the university has set up which requests a network username and password to access the internet.

I wanted to know what product would be recommended to make the ethernet socket into multiple sockets, and/or make my connection wireless allowing me to use my xbox and laptop at the same time.

Due to the NAC and the username and password, the uni has requested my MAC address of the xbox console, i guess to allow it access as an xbox cannot download the NAC client, and i would like to know if that would still work with an adapter for wired and wireless connections.

My preference would be to have my xbox connected via an ethernet port, and my laptop on a wireless connection.

Thanks,

Dan
 
a wireless router plugged into the single port would give you extra ports and wireless, just give them the routers MAC ID, but don't tell them or let them see what you're doing as some get a bit arsey about it.
 
I don't think that you can purchase a switch outside Cisco that supports Cisco NAC... could buy a switch that supports MAC on ports or a router and then give them the MAC address of the port that connects to the uni network.

Stelly
 
tom_e said:
a wireless router plugged into the single port would give you extra ports and wireless, just give them the routers MAC ID, but don't tell them or let them see what you're doing as some get a bit arsey about it.
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I thought that might be what i need to get, why is it i need to tell them the MAC ID? and my uni tech guys seem to be pretty relaxed and helpful, so far...
 
irving1994 said:
I thought that might be what i need to get, why is it i need to tell them the MAC ID? and my uni tech guys seem to be pretty relaxed and helpful, so far...
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Probably need to add it to some kind of white list so that the Cisco NAC does not request the UN and PW for that device...

I doubt that they would allow wireless routers as it would negate the NAC purpose.

Stelly
 
So it seem whatever i do, i'll have to provide the MAC ID of the router to allow me to use the router with the network. I guess i didn't think it would involve as many issues as this, i thought the router would just channel the connection from the socket and so if i was on wifi on my laptop, it would be like directly connecting to the socket itself and i'd have to input the network information on the NAC from there..
 
Stelly said:
Probably need to add it to some kind of white list so that the Cisco NAC does not request the UN and PW for that device...

I doubt that they would allow wireless routers as it would negate the NAC purpose.

Stelly
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thanks for clearing that up at least, man i can't wait until next year when i'll move into my own place with some uni mates and can just setup a network like the one i have at home.
 
irving1994 said:
So it seem whatever i do, i'll have to provide the MAC ID of the router to allow me to use the router with the network. I guess i didn't think it would involve as many issues as this, i thought the router would just channel the connection from the socket and so if i was on wifi on my laptop, it would be like directly connecting to the socket itself and i'd have to input the network information on the NAC from there..
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nope... its the facing Ethernet port to the Uni network that would have to provide the username and password...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Network_address_translation

Stelly
 
Which university is it? Each one has a different IT policy, I know for University of Sussex they allow a wireless router to be connected to the ethernet port, as long as it has it's own MAC address and DHCP server.
 
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Orcvader said:
Which university is it? Each one has a different IT policy, I know for University of Sussex they allow a wireless router to be connected to the ethernet port, as long as it has it's own MAC address and DHCP server.
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University of Salford, i hadn't checked any policies but they don't state that they allow modems the in the internet setup guide. However, allowing xbox's to connect by providing the MAC address suggests they either allow routers for multiple connections or that they want me to just switch the ethernet cable between the laptop and xbox and only use on at once which is a little sour..
 
You could ask them if you could have a wired only router with 5 ports, but you would be taking full responsibility for whatever happens on that NIC. I think that they would say no though :\

Stelly
 
Stelly said:
You could ask them if you could have a wired only router with 5 ports, but you would be taking full responsibility for whatever happens on that NIC. I think that they would say no though :\

Stelly
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I think they'd likely say no aswell, the NAC itself is pretty strict i needed the technicians to help because it didn't like my norton antivirus.
 
Orcvader said:
http://www.its.salford.ac.uk/security/netsecpolicy.pdf

It's quite confusing. I'm assuming section 5.4 will be the one to apply to this case, but I'm not 100% sure on this if it allows you to use your own wireless router. Best to talk to someone in the IT department that understands the IT policy a bit more.
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Does 5.3 not apply to the situation?

Network devices are defined as active equipment required to connect and operate the
University’s data network. Examples are switches, routers, firewalls and wireless access
points. Only ISD and University approved data communications contractors are permitted to
install such devices which will be solely managed by ISD. These devices will be located in ISD
data cabinets. No other equipment will be housed within these cabinets
 
I thought so too at first, but it seems to be talking about the switches, routers, etc that the University uses themselves for their network.

On the other hand... I do know some people that did ignore this by using their own router with their computer's MAC address cloned to it, and then renamed the wireless to "someone's phone" to make it look like it's phone tethering or disable wireless completely just to avoid getting caught...
 
Orcvader said:
I thought so too at first, but it seems to be talking about the switches, routers, etc that the University uses themselves for their network.

On the other hand... I do know some people that did ignore this by using their own router with their computer's MAC address cloned to it, and then renamed the wireless to "someone's phone" to make it look like it's phone tethering or disable wireless completely just to avoid getting caught...
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Backtracking a little, would a totally wired router that has no wireless functionality walk into the same issues?
 
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