Man trapped between train and platform

Marky said:
I just thought - if he makes this out alive - I will imagine he will sue them into the ground :eek:
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What grounds will he have for a law suit? He was probably standing too close to the edge of the platform when he fell in to it, so I can't imagine it's anyones fault except his own.

He wouldn't have a leg to stand on*.



Sorry, couldn't resist.
 
Marky said:
I find them so annoying purely because it's massively embarressing if they don't open, and you're stood their like a lemon waving your hands around :p

Why don't we, and I know it's a crazy idea, but hear me out...

Why don't we just push doors with the power of our hands! Huzzah! :D
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my pet hate, they usually open too slow and I want to smash them.... nothing wrong with normal human operated doors...
 
edscdk said:
my pet hate, they usually open too slow and I want to smash them.... nothing wrong with normal human operated doors...
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I love the doors you can both push & pull. If they have a particularly keen mechanism and the person behind you isn't paying attention, you can proper clobber them with it just by letting go at the right moment. :D
 
That looks horrific :(

I really can't understand that, if that mechanism is inherently so powerful, it wouldn't have some safety features. As an absolute minimum a sensor strip on its edge which would halt its movement if anything were placed between it and the train. Additionally, sensors which monitor the train doors so it won't move if they're open and an emergency retract switch located somewhere on the platform, perhaps even just a keyed switch on the mechanism itself that staff can operate. It's really simple stuff which could, and certainly should, have avoided this.
 
Half of me thinks this is the most horrible thing I have ever seen. The other half of me thinks that this incident is a one way ticket to making first class off the rails train puns.

But seriously with terrible / rubbish jokes aside, horrific incident, I hope he recovers soon.
 
seek said:
What grounds will he have for a law suit?
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The fact that they used a very dangerous design incorporating no safety features, and it took them 20 minutes just to switch it off after the trains doors opened to early and he fell into the gap being crushed?
 
Energize said:
The fact that they used a very dangerous design incorporating no safety features, and it took them 20 minutes just to switch it off after the trains doors opened to early and he fell into the gap being crushed?
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Agreed, it's got law suit written all over it, it is America after all.

The fact it took 20 minutes to disable it is the key issue here, that's not even just a compensation culture type thing, that's a SERIOUS design flaw. I would imagine once the investigation is done they will have to retrofit those devices if they don't come up with a better solution.
 
Energize said:
The fact that they used a very dangerous design incorporating no safety features, and it took them 20 minutes just to switch it off after the trains doors opened to early and he fell into the gap being crushed?
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the fact it';s been used millions of times without incident leads me to think it's user error.

I say we ban cars they have very few safety features limiting the stupidity of the operator and kill dozens of people a day.
 
Tefal said:
the fact it';s been used millions of times without incident leads me to think it's user error.

I say we ban cars they have very few safety features limiting the stupidity of the operator and kill dozens of people a day.
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Not really - it's supposed to be a 'safety' feature.
We all accept the potential danger issues with driving cars.

It's more like getting strangled by a seat belt to use the car analogy.
 
Tefal said:
the fact it';s been used millions of times without incident leads me to think it's user error.

I say we ban cars they have very few safety features limiting the stupidity of the operator and kill dozens of people a day.
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PEBTAP? Problem Exists Between Train and Platform?

Seriously though looks painful, hope he winds up OK!
 
Dr.EM said:
That looks horrific :(

I really can't understand that, if that mechanism is inherently so powerful, it wouldn't have some safety features. As an absolute minimum a sensor strip on its edge which would halt its movement if anything were placed between it and the train. Additionally, sensors which monitor the train doors so it won't move if they're open and an emergency retract switch located somewhere on the platform, perhaps even just a keyed switch on the mechanism itself that staff can operate. It's really simple stuff which could, and certainly should, have avoided this.
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Not as easy as just chucking in some more sensors, although I do agree that there should have been something else there.

But tbh who knows that there wasn't something installed there and a variety of factors led to such an event occuring.

The underground has plenty of fancy sensors and safety features on the rolling stock and signalling and although I'm not that knowledgable on the MTA, they will also have enough safety features! For example positive door locking and sensors preventing the train from moving if the doors are leant on or held open are two simple features on the LUL rolling stocks and I'm sure MTA must have something similar. The drivers control when doors open though, something they are leaving in for the new TBTC signalling upgrades. Gotta give them something to do :p

Hope he pulls thorugh though, horrible injuries there and I'm still shocked there isn't an emergency release or safety override switch to reverse the hydraulics in case of such an emergency!
 
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