I used to in the past especially when I lived abroad and used to go trekking a lot more but now I just have a small multi tool in my backpack.
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I used to in the past especially when I lived abroad and used to go trekking a lot more but now I just have a small multi tool in my backpack.
Was just one example - but toting an escape tool around (on your person) would be a bit odd heh. Gerber tool sounds like something to look into though.
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You can ask that of anything in the house...many people on here have multiple computers, or cars, or shoes, or suits, or bags, or watches. Ask them why they have them and how often they use them all. It's totally irrellevant.
There are also collectors out there who have hundreds of items of cutlery, some worth many thousands of pounds. You don't need to use something to appreciate them, or indeed to get financial gain from having them.
I suggest you live in a very different world to lots of people if you only ever use a knife for non cooking things once a month. Are you the sort to use scissors instead, when a knife would be a much safer tool to use? I use one daily at work for eating, but also opening post, amongst a plethora of other tasks. They're extraordinarily useful tools.
It's a bit of a stretch to make believe you're John Rambo with a little key ring belt cutter. Mind you I would have said the same about a pen knife before I'd read this thread.
Exactly this. I receive lots of packages from Amazon prime. Perhaps one every other day. I don't want to be searching all over the place as to where i left my one and only knife. Hence the usefulness of having one just about everywhere. Plus this day and age, whenever i buy a new anything, you need a damn knife to get into it, as its sealed in pressed plastic. Another reason is i am a bit of a tool junkie. I love my tools, and knifes to me are just another very useful inexpensive tool, and whenever i see a good one on at a decent price i treat myself. So why not have many knocking around.
I don't rarely if ever carry one when i'm out and about, unless you take the one in my car into consideration. Again if i buy a new tool or something in my lunch, i like to have the ability to get into the packaging. Law allows me to do so without prosecution, so i do. Simple as that.
well he's not a collector from his comment but it seems an excessive number of non culterly knives. (i dont think hes using them for eating)
tbh only time i use a knife for cutting things is a Stanley knife for shortening conduits at work after the other shift has ****ed up installing them. and i really shouldn't be using them for that when they've got a few K worth of cables inside them that are crap at the slightest nick.
Tbh i tend to open boxes with my keys more than anything else, and letters with my fingers.
one thing i doo keep meaning to pick up though is something like keyring case that could hold a stanley style blade as i find when i do use a knife razor sharp is more handy than sturdy (packagin etc a stanley style blade is so much easier than a fixed survival style knife with a handle)
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'Non-cutlery' knives - there's no such thing, Tefal. Knives are classed as cutlery. But I assume you mean 'knives not designed for eating food'?
If you mean vaguely 'tactical' knives, then those are oftentimes great fun to use to cook and eat with, as well as mess about outside with in the garden, trimming whatever needs (or doesn't!) trimming. I use a variety whenever I'm around the place, my favourites being my Shirogorov Hati and Rockstead Shin, along with things like Sebenzas and Umnumzaans if you want to see the extent to which pocket knives can combine beauty (subjective, of course) and extraordinary skill in manufacturing in terms of tolerances and materials used. The pleasure is not just in the using (though the Shin has been rubbish in my use, but the Hati exceptional), but also in the appreciation of what goes into making them. But not everyone will appreciate those things. Some people just want something that's cheap and cuts (relatively) well.
Regarding your desire for a razor blade - that's going to be iffy as carrying a razor blade around may well be seen as a no-no. There are people who take a razor or scalpel blade, and create a folding kydex handle which means the blade can be safely folded (ticking the 'non-locking' criteria) and also making the thing more useable than a raw blade. If you're interested, I'll have a dig on the forums I'm on and link to the makers of these types of things. There may well be production versions out there too, I'm just not aware of them (I like buying things made here by similar folk, rather than importing from factories in lands afar).
Yeah i fully understand the engineering appreciation i just find it odd when people say how often they use knives in thier day to day life as a reason for having them given i rarely ever need to
especially a fixed blade kind of knife with a sheath a lot of Americans seem to love carrying around on the EDC types of places.
theres a lot of companies that make Stanley style blade holders, folding too, as they're handy for trade work. but im not a fan of the big handles etc just literally a metal/plastic sheath that it slides out of would be nice, no bigger than a dog tag, cheap blades (and reversible) and sharp enough for the little things i may actual use one for (opening stuff /cutting tubing).
http://the-gadgeteer.com/2015/03/13...-a-box-cutter-you-can-carry-on-your-keychain/
this kind of thing but maybe a little studier/better made.
https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/tactical/tk-tukk-titanium-utility-knife-keychain/description
kickstarter provides lol
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I don't carry anywhere on me per se, but i do have one in the car, at work and many at home.
But if i'm say going out to eat with my family or taking the dog for a walk as another example, i never make a point of carrying a knife with me. That would make it a concealed weapon. Even tho that i'm actually allowed too, but still do not, should ease your opinion of what you're trying to accuse me of.
The point i'm trying to make is i'm not one of those typical nut jobs who's waiting for the time to come for when i step up to save the day with my concealed weapon. Trust me there are many like that, but typically they'll reach for their firearm rather than a $5 walmart knife.. All i'm doing is keeping an extremely convenient tool handy at all times when i'm either at work, at home or in my car.
If you're unable to see the handiness of a knife, then perhaps you should step away from your keyboard and this forum once a while and do other things with your life.
Sure I've stated this before now - I carry a SAK mountaineer everywhere with me. The only time I don't carry it is on the rare occasions I have to fly, then it goes into the baggage until I get to where I'm going.
It has all of the useful stuff like scissors, metal file/saw, can opener, bottle opener, flat bade screwdriver, awl, 2 blades one large one small (both non locking) and the all important cork screw.
I've had this same model since I was 10. I've been arrested with it in my pocket and had it returned to me without comment*. I've used it in public spaces, albeit with a level of discretion; not waving it about like a yobbo.
* Granted, the arrest was for a non violent offence, also I wasn't behaving in a threatening manner, so I guess common sense won the day?
I also have a leatherman supertool 300 that I'm carrying with me right now (I'm at work) and generally goes with me most places. However, as it has lockable blades (even though they don't exceed the 3" limit) if I'm going out drinking in town at night the multitool will stay at home.
I must say I find the declaration that a knife with a locking blade is a dangerous weapon to be a little arbitrary. Particularly something like a multitool - 'I'ma gonna stab u up blud... just hold on a minute...' fiddles with multitool, open pliers to access the blades inside, fiddles some more to find the pointy one, closed the pliers bit... 'Ok, right now I'ma gonna stabb u up...' Leaving aside premeditation, your average violent thugg is more likely to use a cheap kitchen knife or a stanley blade or perhaps a screwdriver to inflict violence on others. I'd like to see the number of offenders who had committed their crimes using expensive multitools or high value knives, be they locking or fixed blades.
Given my use of tools with blades over the years, a locking blade is a safety issue for me, just like the knife being kept very sharp is a safety issue. Twice I have cut myself quite badly (not a little nick, but a propper bleeder) over the years. The first was because the blade was dull and so required more force to use. It slipped and left me with a nasty cut. The second was because the folding blade on my SAK folded on my fingers whilst I was using it whilst trying to use the blade in a push type cut.
I guess it's really a question of judging the situation and acting accordingly. It's a little sad that something as innocuous as a penknife is sometimes viewed as a dangerous weapon by some people, something worth of their concern and fear. Bit like how seeing a bloke with little kids makes some people think 'uuur, peado, must call authorities'. The reality is they've been conditioned by the media to fear something where there is perhaps no need.
Had the OP encountered this dangerous foreigner with a knife on the way home from the pub, acting aggressively and waving his knife about in a threatening manner, then there's probably cause for alarm. A bloke whittling a stick in the countryside and otherwise seemingly minding his own business... I'd venture the idea that everyone else should be minding their own business as well.
It has all of the useful stuff like scissors, metal file/saw, can opener, bottle opener, flat bade screwdriver, awl, 2 blades one large one small (both non locking) and the all important cork screw.
I've had this same model since I was 10. I've been arrested with it in my pocket and had it returned to me without comment*. I've used it in public spaces, albeit with a level of discretion; not waving it about like a yobbo.
* Granted, the arrest was for a non violent offence, also I wasn't behaving in a threatening manner, so I guess common sense won the day?
I also have a leatherman supertool 300 that I'm carrying with me right now (I'm at work) and generally goes with me most places. However, as it has lockable blades (even though they don't exceed the 3" limit) if I'm going out drinking in town at night the multitool will stay at home.
I must say I find the declaration that a knife with a locking blade is a dangerous weapon to be a little arbitrary. Particularly something like a multitool - 'I'ma gonna stab u up blud... just hold on a minute...' fiddles with multitool, open pliers to access the blades inside, fiddles some more to find the pointy one, closed the pliers bit... 'Ok, right now I'ma gonna stabb u up...' Leaving aside premeditation, your average violent thugg is more likely to use a cheap kitchen knife or a stanley blade or perhaps a screwdriver to inflict violence on others. I'd like to see the number of offenders who had committed their crimes using expensive multitools or high value knives, be they locking or fixed blades.
Given my use of tools with blades over the years, a locking blade is a safety issue for me, just like the knife being kept very sharp is a safety issue. Twice I have cut myself quite badly (not a little nick, but a propper bleeder) over the years. The first was because the blade was dull and so required more force to use. It slipped and left me with a nasty cut. The second was because the folding blade on my SAK folded on my fingers whilst I was using it whilst trying to use the blade in a push type cut.
I guess it's really a question of judging the situation and acting accordingly. It's a little sad that something as innocuous as a penknife is sometimes viewed as a dangerous weapon by some people, something worth of their concern and fear. Bit like how seeing a bloke with little kids makes some people think 'uuur, peado, must call authorities'. The reality is they've been conditioned by the media to fear something where there is perhaps no need.
Had the OP encountered this dangerous foreigner with a knife on the way home from the pub, acting aggressively and waving his knife about in a threatening manner, then there's probably cause for alarm. A bloke whittling a stick in the countryside and otherwise seemingly minding his own business... I'd venture the idea that everyone else should be minding their own business as well.
With proper techniques (which is easier said than done, etc.) having the blade fold back on you should never happen. That said there is a proper stance you are "supposed" to use to whittle a stick or branch so that you can't accidentally cut into an artery in your leg which I've never seen anyone actually use - even those who know to cut away from themselves, etc.
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True enough. Confined spaces half upside down in the footwell of my car, attempting to cut some plastic trim... I had to chuck the floor mat out due to the blood spattered over it
Out-doorsy stuff I generally keep to the safety first before I start cutting, kind of measure twice, cut once mentality - what could I sever if this goes wrong? Then set up accordingly.
It makes me cringe when you see people cutting towards themselves. Never mind the use of small axes which are a serious accident waiting to happen. If I'm out camping I make sure all the axe chopping is done before it starts to get dark and definitely before beer-o-clock.
True enough. Confined spaces half upside down in the footwell of my car, attempting to cut some plastic trim... I had to chuck the floor mat out due to the blood spattered over it
Out-doorsy stuff I generally keep to the safety first before I start cutting, kind of measure twice, cut once mentality - what could I sever if this goes wrong? Then set up accordingly.
It makes me cringe when you see people cutting towards themselves. Never mind the use of small axes which are a serious accident waiting to happen. If I'm out camping I make sure all the axe chopping is done before it starts to get dark and definitely before beer-o-clock.
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I have a few knives, mainly used for camping etc, from multi tools to a hefty 6" fixed blade.
Don't normally carry them unless I'm going camping/hiking/activity that requires them, though I do have a cheap multi tool in my work bag (tin opener, knife etc) and glove box, just in case I need them.
I had a Victorinox Nomad taken off me on the London Eye as I forgot it was in my rucksack
but got it back when I got off, as I explained why I had it (on a Scout camp and had left it in my bag by accident - I should have left it on site really).
One thing I did wonder though, is when is it "on your person"? In the bottom of my rucksack isn't readily accessible, and less so than eg having just bought the knife and it being in a carrier bag
Don't normally carry them unless I'm going camping/hiking/activity that requires them, though I do have a cheap multi tool in my work bag (tin opener, knife etc) and glove box, just in case I need them.
I had a Victorinox Nomad taken off me on the London Eye as I forgot it was in my rucksack
but got it back when I got off, as I explained why I had it (on a Scout camp and had left it in my bag by accident - I should have left it on site really).One thing I did wonder though, is when is it "on your person"? In the bottom of my rucksack isn't readily accessible, and less so than eg having just bought the knife and it being in a carrier bag