Mandatory Ponzi scheme enrolment

Putting money in a ponzi scheme is not saving, its waste of money. As inflation will destroy the value. There is no benefit from throwing money away in to a ponzi scheme every month. Yes i will try to opt out, thanks for pointing that out, my employer never mentioned that i can opt out.

If i could opt out of the national insurance i would as well. Unfortunately that ponzi scheme is not opt out-able.

But your employer is matching your contributions, so you're in effect doubling your money by putting it into a pension plan. Inflation won't even be a factor unless the economy tanks and we're buying a loaf of bread with £10,000 notes. Plus, with most pension schemes you can choose the funds etc your money goes into, so you can choose a high risk fund and make a pretty decent sum.
 
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Putting money in a ponzi scheme is not saving, its waste of money.

This pretty much sums up the problem, the whole reason we need a new pension scheme is because its got to the point where the money from today's workforce isn't enough to pay the people from yesterday who paid into it (as their "boom" generation is bigger).
 
But your employer is matching your contributions, so you're in effect doubling your money by putting it into a pension plan. Inflation won't even be a factor unless the economy tanks and we're buying a loaf of bread with £10,000 notes. Plus, with most pension schemes you can choose the funds etc your money goes into, so you can choose a high risk fund and make a pretty decent sum.

And it's taken out pre tax, so you save on NI.
Plus his idea of using a saving account has a very low guarentee.

It's just LOlGroen like normall.
 
As it is matched, you are getting 100% ROI before evening factoring in things like tax.

Find me another investment with that.

The only real factor is that you have to wait until retirement age to see it.
 
I'm in the company pension. I pay 4%, they pay 8% and I save a bit of tax too. I'm fine with that and I know it's sensible etc but;

My only problem with this is that I can't see everyone having 2 pensions in the future. I can see the state pension evolving into a benefit for those who haven't had a private/company pension or didn't bother going to work. If this happened (and I mean in 20++ years) then the idle gits would be fine, the rich people with whopping pensions would also be fine but the man in the middle who has paid in for 30 odd years might only be marginally better off (in some cases) that the idle ones.

Either that or we will all have 2 pensions
 
It's more of a pyramid scheme than a Ponzi scheme. Besides, you can avoid being in the scheme; you can opt out, or quit your job. Either option will result in you no longer have to make the contributions, but as other members have suggested, the latter one will also benefit your employer.
 
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