Martial Arts

Morba · 20 Oct 2008 at 16:40

mangobreeder said:
www.tangsoudao.com

its the best.

haha, quality

Mat · 20 Oct 2008 at 16:44

Morba said:
Indeed, never underestimate the power of knowing some ground work.

There are arguments against going to ground though... unless its a complete one on one, the second you hit the deck in a tangled mess of limbs and clothing with one person, you're likely to find a bunch of size tens from the mates trying to go from outside of you to inside of you...

mangobreeder · 20 Oct 2008 at 16:48

Mat said:
There are arguments against going to ground though... unless its a complete one on one, the second you hit the deck in a tangled mess of limbs and clothing with one person, you're likely to find a bunch of size tens from the mates trying to go from outside of you to inside of you...

thats where RISK ASSESSMENT comes in.

1 gobby kid on his own, no problem

20 gobby kids - bit more of a problem

Mat · 20 Oct 2008 at 16:51

mangobreeder said:
thats where RISK ASSESSMENT comes in.

You mean I have to submit an official RA form to my manager every time I see a group of ne'erdewells?!

/\ndy · 20 Oct 2008 at 16:56

i did jiu jitsu for about a year, which was good all round really, however there was a lot of techniques that simply are not applicable in a real life combat situation. I now practice defensive tactics, which is a lot more street fighter oriented, and not really classed as a martial art, there is no fancy techniques as such, just learning how to take someone out as quickly and as effectively as possible, same stuff thats taught in the armed forces etc etc

Paul11 · 20 Oct 2008 at 16:59

Mat said:
You mean I have to submit an official RA form to my manager every time I see a group of ne'erdewells?!

lols

but i agree, goign to the ground is risky in a street situation and probablly avoided unless there is no choice.

for me, self defense is about using quick, fast strikes to allow me to get away ..

no shame in running

Tibbs · 20 Oct 2008 at 17:16

I did Karate for about 3 years. Also did Akido and Taekwondo. It made me feel more confident in situations as it made me think about the different ways to unarm and defend rather than backing down.
I've never started a fight but if I have been in a situation I have been able to defend and know where to hit back.

I prefered Karate out of them all as it was full contact. I learned disipline from the others and how to unarm someone with a knife etc. This taught me not to fight but defend.

I have videos of when I did Karate from when I was younger. I'm the only girl in my grading and I think it's best to start young. I was the youngest and I was out to prove I was just as good as the older ones.
I think it's useful but you need to know the right one for you.

Kreeeee · 20 Oct 2008 at 18:35

msm722 said:
Do you think doing Martial Arts means you can handle yourself better, or is it a waste of time?

Discuss.

The ONLY intelligent way to handle yourself is to run, to stay and fight is idiotic.

LiE · 20 Oct 2008 at 18:43

You can't always run. Sometimes you need to defend yourself/others.

meghatronic · 20 Oct 2008 at 18:45

Kreeeee said:
The ONLY intelligent way to handle yourself is to run, to stay and fight is idiotic.

It isn't, see my earlier post.

It's diplomacy... try and talk yourself out of the fight. This I have done countless times. Fighting? Very few times. Running, never.

Mark A · 20 Oct 2008 at 18:52

Martial arts training would come in very handy if your opponent by some miracle punches in slow motion allowing you to execute your throws etc lol.

meghatronic · 20 Oct 2008 at 18:55

Mark A said:
Martial arts training would come in very handy if your opponent by some miracle punches in slow motion allowing you to execute your throws etc lol.

It's deeper than that. It's about being able to pre-empt, or take a hit, or better yet - not escalate the situation to physical violence.

As for your slow motion comment, you'd be amazed how slow and uncontrolled drunk people can be.

A.N.Other · 20 Oct 2008 at 19:07

Not really a martial art, but I'd be quite interested to learn krav maga. If it's good enough for the Israeli and US special forces then it's good enough for me. I don't think there are many places in the UK that teach it, though.

LiE · 20 Oct 2008 at 19:43

Mark A - Some clubs do teach things slowly, and as many people would agree this isn't effective. However there any many clubs that teach effective and practical moves against full attacks (see my post about proper punches).

Morba · 20 Oct 2008 at 19:43

Mat said:
There are arguments against going to ground though... unless its a complete one on one, the second you hit the deck in a tangled mess of limbs and clothing with one person, you're likely to find a bunch of size tens from the mates trying to go from outside of you to inside of you...

my comment was more regarding it getting messy, getting messy often means it ends up on the floor, which is where some groundwork knowledge comes in.
I wouldnt want to take any public fight to the floor tbh

Tibbs · 20 Oct 2008 at 19:50

Morba said:
I wouldnt want to take any public fight to the floor tbh

Agreed. Being pinned down is horrible. The martial arts that I took part in showed you how to prevent it. I just wished I had of stuck to it a little longer.
Fights on the floor can get very nasty.

Inquisitor · 20 Oct 2008 at 20:08

A.N.Other said:
Not really a martial art, but I'd be quite interested to learn krav maga. If it's good enough for the Israeli and US special forces then it's good enough for me. I don't think there are many places in the UK that teach it, though.

There are KM places in most large cities I think. Certainly one in Bristol and Birmingham (where I train).