Marussia Virgin Racing in technical partnership with McLaren

EddScott · 4 Jul 2011 at 15:15

CaptainRAVE said:
As in it won't make them any more competitive - they are in a spiral backwards these days.

I was going to call this BS but looking at how Lotus promised much by getting Renault power and some Red Bull left overs, it hasn't worked out.

Does the Williams have just rubbish aero or is the Cosworth holding it back? Would putting the renualt lump into the 2011 Williams make it more competitive?

DBT85 · 4 Jul 2011 at 15:16

CaptainRAVE said:
As in it won't make them any more competitive - they are in a spiral backwards these days.

Which is not at all possible to get out of?

EddScott said:
I was going to call this BS but looking at how Lotus promised much by getting Renault power and some Red Bull left overs, it hasn't worked out.

But you can't expect it to just happen because you drop a new engine, tranny and rear suspension on.

Lotus have now signed sponsorship deals that will significantly boost its budget for the rest of this season and next season which means they can do more. While one aspect isn't going to win you points, if you get enough together you can make it work.

While Williams getting the Renault engine isn't instantly going to make them win anything on its own, its just another piece of the puzzle.

Muffin` · 4 Jul 2011 at 15:23

EddScott said:
Does the Williams have just rubbish aero or is the Cosworth holding it back? Would putting the renualt lump into the 2011 Williams make it more competitive?

When did the V8's come in? Has the Cosworth engine ever delivered?

Skeeter · 4 Jul 2011 at 15:30

EddScott said:
I was going to call this BS but looking at how Lotus promised much by getting Renault power and some Red Bull left overs, it hasn't worked out.

Lol, so dropping a new engine in should mean they are mediately winning races?

Muffin` said:
When did the V8's come in? Has the Cosworth engine ever delivered?

I don't think the Cosworth V8 has ever really been a consistent front runner.

Guerrilla · 4 Jul 2011 at 15:46

Todge said:
While Williams getting the Renault engine isn't instantly going to make them win anything on its own, its just another piece of the puzzle.

Indeed, it'd also be nice to see some non F1 collaborations between the two.

Maybe Willaims can make themselves some money to throw back inot F1.

CaptainRAVE · 4 Jul 2011 at 15:59

Todge said:
Which is not at all possible to get out of?

Given how long they have been in this spiral and the budgets/skills etc. of the other teams, I think it is unlikely.

GravyMonster · 4 Jul 2011 at 19:26

Skeeter said:
I don't think the Cosworth V8 has ever really been a consistent front runner.

it was in the 60s when the DFV was introduced, up until the early 80s and turbos came in. Since then... Not so much