Masons

[Deleted member 66701]

It's starting to come off a bit "rapey" to me now.

Freemasonry is probably not for you then. Regardless, I hope you gain everything you seek in life and wish you well.

 

[Mr Krugga]

Freemasonry... isn't it that famous social gay club?

 

[DM]

I don't think they are particularly secret anymore, I think they've come a long way and diversified to try and remove the old ideas people had about them. However, I understand that they held considerable influence back in the 50/60s which is slightly... dubious perhaps?
There's nothing particularly wrong with helping a mate up and whatever but I think where my Father was coming from, he thought it was wrong that there are people in the World who benefited that weren't the best. He was a wishy washy Liberal back in the day which no doubt shaped his opinions a lot with the Masons. Nowadays, he sees them much more of an old boys club that just get together every now and then as friends do. But, are also active in charity work.
Finally, I was a bit wrong to say that there was a link as from speaking to people I've learnt that it was entirely appropriate for my Grandfather to achieve the rank that he did on merit alone.

There are a million pages written about the met police and freemasons, ignore 90% of it, its a load of ****.

Im 100% sure your grand dad did what he did on his own merit without even knowing the man and good on him.

 

[DM]

Freemasonry... isn't it that famous social gay club?

And here is another idiot thats probably not an ideal candidate.

 

[Deleted member 66701]

Finally, I was a bit wrong to say that there was a link as from speaking to people I've learnt that it was entirely appropriate for my Grandfather to achieve the rank that he did on merit alone.

The fact of the matter is that Freemasons generally to excel in life and do well in the chosen career but 99% of the time it's due to the skills and confidence they have gained as a result of being a Freemason, rather than any dodgy backhanders or legups they've got along the way.

Just like going to University prepares you for the world, Freemasonry prepares you to make the most of your life - which is why I find it unfortunate that the majority of initiates are near the end of thier working life, when they would derive the most usefullness from it if they had joined later.

As DiamondMark says - it can simply be a night out to meet with friends, have a good meal and a good drink (jeez can Freemasons drink!) and if that's all you want from it then fine - "it is what it is".

Same as everything with life, you get out what you put in - no-one is going to do things for you.

 

[Mason-]

My surname is Mason, and funnily enough my mum is the manager of an RMBI (Royal Masonic Benevolent Institution) residential home for the elderly which only cares for the elderly freemasons, but unfortunately I'm not a freemason

 

[Mr Krugga]

And here is another idiot thats probably not an ideal candidate.

Oh, the butthurt.

What level are you out of the interest?

 

[DM]

The fact of the matter is that Freemasons generally to excel in life and do well in the chosen career but 99% of the time it's due to the skills and confidence they have gained as a result of being a Freemason, rather than any dodgy backhanders or legups they've got along the way.

Just like going to University prepares you for the world, Freemasonry prepares you to make the most of your life - which is why I find it unfortunate that the majority of initiates are near the end of thier working life, when they would derive the most usefullness from it if they had joined later.

As DiamondMark says - it can simply be a night out to meet with friends, have a good meal and a good drink (jeez can Freemasons drink!) and if that's all you want from it then fine - "it is what it is".

Same as everything with life, you get out what you put in - no-one is going to do things for you.

That my man is a superb post and i think probably our time to bow out

 

[Deleted member 66701]

And here is another idiot thats probably not an ideal candidate.

"Keep it select" as they say

That my man is a superb post and i think probably our time to bow out

I concur - to all the following posters, enjoy the thread

 

[RDM]

I'm honestly not understanding the benefits. It may well be it's just because I'm not involved in it so I don't understand.

But all the things people have mentioned are skills etc that I've learnt just growing up. I suppose it might help an unconfident person.

I would suggest that the best advantage that being a mason gives you is the social contact network. Which is pretty much invaluable as the world generally runs on a combination of what and who you know, so the more of either you have the easier it is to suceed.

 

[Knubje]

I would suggest that the best advantage that being a mason gives you is the social contact network.

All the Masons I know are a little golden hand shaky and all but one are in very well paid jobs.

I'm not saying its because they are a Mason, but as RDM states, it gives you a social contact network in which most people are doing well for themselves and strive to be better people in life. Be it in their careers, helping others and so on.

Its not what you know, but who you know. If you know many high powered businessmen and are in their organisation there are bound to be benefits that arise from it at some point.

 

[*Moangroan*]

The Mason thing i suppose is like the MP thing.

The councillors and little political party helpers are there to do good in the country and be good little helper citizens in your local community. the MP is there to have his face in the trough.

I think the Mason thing higher up is the same....grunt grunt.

 

[Damnations Fury]

My girlfriends father and borther are Freemasons. While I have intenionally haven't asked too many questions, I can vouch that they do a good deal of work for charity.

Her brother said that they are facing issues at the moment that the stereotype of it being a bunch of old men old men is true, and they are smply dieing out, though that could be an issue for that lodge.

Also I don't get the impression it's all backhanders etc, more it gives a person oppotunity to meet people from all walks of life on an equal footing, which is always useful.

 

[[J.D.C]]

My grandad's in the masons. Pretty sure he's up to no good, hah.

Think my girlfriend's mum's boyfriend was as well but left because he thought they were all hypocrites shagging each others wives.

 

[matt_fsr]

Think my girlfriend's mum's boyfriend was as well but left because he thought they were all hypocrites shagging each others wives.

Are you sure that was a Masonic Lodge or a swingers club he went to?

 

[[J.D.C]]

Are you sure that was a Masonic Lodge or a swingers club he went to?

I think the point I'm making is, the Masons seem to cater to both.

 

[doofer]

When I worked at British Aerospace at Broughton in the early 80s every single Manager in the place was a Freemason, it was an open joke you'd never get promotion without being in the funny handshake brigade, anyone who says the Freemasons are not self-serving is very naiive, yes they do a lot for Charities but that sure as hell is not why they join, they join for favours and preferential treatment from other Masons which is why all Judges and Police in the UK who are Freemasons should be banned from any such 'Secret' organisations or removed from Public Office.