mATX or mITX

Neoni · 25 Sep 2013 at 00:16

Whats the difference? preference for gaming?

Alex

kefan77 · 25 Sep 2013 at 00:19

size? connectivity?

both can perform equally, mATX gives more options.

Neoni · 25 Sep 2013 at 00:20

kefan77 said:
size? connectivity?

both can perform equally, mATX gives more options.

in what respect fella?

kefan77 · 25 Sep 2013 at 00:20

there's no ITX with 4 RAM slots for example.

Neoni · 25 Sep 2013 at 00:23

kefan77 said:
there's no ITX with 4 RAM slots for example.

ah right, for gaming i was going to build an ITX machine in a bitfenix, i know there is an mATX but im unsure..

kefan77 · 25 Sep 2013 at 00:26

Bitfenix just announced Prodigy M that can accomodate mATX.

Neoni · 25 Sep 2013 at 00:37

kefan77 said:
Bitfenix just announced Prodigy M that can accomodate mATX.

would you recommend that instead?

kefan77 · 25 Sep 2013 at 00:42

given it's got pretty much the same external dimensions (as original Prodigy) and can accomodate mATX as well as ITX, definitely yes.

just not sure about UK availability. In Germany it starts shipping 14/10 as of today.

Neoni · 25 Sep 2013 at 00:49

kefan77 said:
given it's got pretty much the same external dimensions (as original Prodigy) and can accomodate mATX as well as ITX, definitely yes.

just not sure about UK availability. In Germany it starts shipping 14/10 as of today.

id prefer that nicer boards for atx means i can accomodate more ram etc in future with prospect of a second card also?

kefan77 · 25 Sep 2013 at 00:54

ITX come with single PCI-E so 2nd card is not an option.

mATX + Prodigy M is your best bet in this case. You'd just have to wait a bit.

snips86x · 25 Sep 2013 at 06:23

If your only gaming, 8GB would be fine and most ITX boards can accommodate 16gb but you only get 1 PCIe slot.

What is your budget?

oceaness · 25 Sep 2013 at 07:41

Snips is right, 8gb is plenty for gaming and most other tasks you're likely to throw at it. 16gb is overkill unless you're rendering large scenes, running a server or if you're editing large video files I believe it can help.

I'd say the only real limitation of ITX is the single PCIe slot. And perhaps the lack of case choice to some degree, though if you already like the Prodigy then that's not an issue, other than the fact that for an ITX case it is enormous, hence them being able to redesign it to fit a mATX board in it without changing the dimensions lol

I've got a little 3770K ITX build with a GTX 670 and I love it, the only thing I want to do is get a nice small case for it, but it's proving difficult to find something I like. There are a lot of ITX cases hitting the market soon so I've got it running in an old full ATX case whilst I'm waiting.

Neoni · 25 Sep 2013 at 10:32

oceaness said:
Snips is right, 8gb is plenty for gaming and most other tasks you're likely to throw at it. 16gb is overkill unless you're rendering large scenes, running a server or if you're editing large video files I believe it can help.

I'd say the only real limitation of ITX is the single PCIe slot. And perhaps the lack of case choice to some degree, though if you already like the Prodigy then that's not an issue, other than the fact that for an ITX case it is enormous, hence them being able to redesign it to fit a mATX board in it without changing the dimensions lol

I've got a little 3770K ITX build with a GTX 670 and I love it, the only thing I want to do is get a nice small case for it, but it's proving difficult to find something I like. There are a lot of ITX cases hitting the market soon so I've got it running in an old full ATX case whilst I'm waiting.

Budgets around £1450 including prephs.. im trying to go for a red theme inside too

So was looking at a 3.4 i5 Haswell, 8GB Ram, 120ssd, 1TB hdd, 550w-650w psu, undecided on a gfx card and the mobos a problem to fit with the theme im going for.

Also i was looking at the following prephs:

http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=MO-070-BQ
http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=KB-078-RA
http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=KB-011-CM

So ideally would like to build around these - Alex

oceaness · 25 Sep 2013 at 12:26

Would you plan to over clock or like the ability to add a 2nd graphics card for SLI/Xfire in the future?

Neoni · 25 Sep 2013 at 15:01

oceaness said:
Would you plan to over clock or like the ability to add a 2nd graphics card for SLI/Xfire in the future?

probably not, if i wanted a new card id upgrade

oceaness · 25 Sep 2013 at 16:23

It's a pretty basic spec motherboard but it depends what you need from it.

It's got 2 sata 6gbs and 2 sata 3gbs and a header for the cases front mounted, USB 3.0's.

You could sacrifice the water cooler and get a better graphics card if you wanted but I just think it looks so awesome with the red coolant.

YOUR BASKET
1 x BenQ XL2411T 24" TRUE 144Hz 3D Vision 2.0 Widescreen LED Monitor - Black/Red £251.99
1 x MSI HD 7950 Twin Frozr III Boost Edition 3072MB GDDR5 PCI-Express Graphics Card **NEW REVISION** with FREE GAMES £199.99
1 x Intel Core i5-4440 3.10GHz (Haswell) Socket LGA1150 Processor - Retail £143.99
1 x OcUK Tech Labs Fathom All in One Custom Cooler 240mm £112.97
- 1 x XSPC EX240 120mm Radiator - Black £41.99
- 1 x Mayhems X1 UV Red Premixed Watercooling Fluid 1L £7.99
1 x Corsair Obsidian 350D Windowed Micro ATX Case - Black £94.99
1 x Samsung 120GB SSD 840 EVO SATA 6Gb/s Basic - (MZ-7TE120BW) £83.99
1 x Microsoft Windows 8 64-Bit DVD - OEM (WN7-00403) £79.99
1 x CM Storm Quickfire TK Mechanical Keyboard - Red Switch £72.98
1 x Seasonic G series 550w '80 Plus Gold' Modular Power Supply £71.99
1 x Razer DeathAdder 2013 6400 DPI Essential Ergonomic Gaming Mouse £64.99
1 x Patriot Venom Red 8GB (2x4GB) DDR3 PC3-12800C9 1600MHz Dual Channel Memory Kit (PV38G160C9KRD) £59.99
1 x Western Digital Caviar Green 1TB SATA 6Gb/s 64MB Cache - OEM (WD10EZRX) **SINGLE PLATTER** HDD £53.99
1 x Gigabyte H81M-D2V Intel H81 (Socket 1150) DDR3 Micro ATX Motherboard £51.95
1 x BitFenix Alchemy 24-Pin ATX Extension 30cm - sleeved black/red/black £7.49
1 x BitFenix 6-Pin PCIe Extension 45cm - sleeved black/red/black £5.99
2 x BitFenix Alchemy SATA 6GB/s braided cable 30cm - Red £5.99 (£11.98)
1 x BitFenix Molex to 4x SATA Adapter 20 cm - sleeved black/red/black £5.99
1 x BitFenix 8-Pin PCIe Extension 45cm - sleeved black/red/black £5.95
1 x BitFenix Alchemy 8-Pin EPS12V Extension 45cm - sleeved black/red/black £4.99
1 x BitFenix Alchemy Internal Audio Extension Adaptor 30cm - Red £4.49
1 x BitFenix Alchemy 2pin I/O extension 30cm - Red £3.95
Total : £1,444.60 (includes shipping : FREE).

Neoni · 25 Sep 2013 at 16:26

oceaness said:
It's a pretty basic spec motherboard but it depends what you need from it.

It's got 2 sata 6gbs and 2 sata 3gbs and a header for the cases front mounted, USB 3.0's.

You could sacrifice the water cooler and get a better graphics card if you wanted but I just think it looks so awesome with the red coolant.

YOUR BASKET
1 x BenQ XL2411T 24" TRUE 144Hz 3D Vision 2.0 Widescreen LED Monitor - Black/Red £251.99
1 x MSI HD 7950 Twin Frozr III Boost Edition 3072MB GDDR5 PCI-Express Graphics Card **NEW REVISION** with FREE GAMES £199.99
1 x Intel Core i5-4440 3.10GHz (Haswell) Socket LGA1150 Processor - Retail £143.99
1 x OcUK Tech Labs Fathom All in One Custom Cooler 240mm £112.97
- 1 x XSPC EX240 120mm Radiator - Black £41.99
- 1 x Mayhems X1 UV Red Premixed Watercooling Fluid 1L £7.99
1 x Corsair Obsidian 350D Windowed Micro ATX Case - Black £94.99
1 x Samsung 120GB SSD 840 EVO SATA 6Gb/s Basic - (MZ-7TE120BW) £83.99
1 x Microsoft Windows 8 64-Bit DVD - OEM (WN7-00403) £79.99
1 x CM Storm Quickfire TK Mechanical Keyboard - Red Switch £72.98
1 x Seasonic G series 550w '80 Plus Gold' Modular Power Supply £71.99
1 x Razer DeathAdder 2013 6400 DPI Essential Ergonomic Gaming Mouse £64.99
1 x Patriot Venom Red 8GB (2x4GB) DDR3 PC3-12800C9 1600MHz Dual Channel Memory Kit (PV38G160C9KRD) £59.99
1 x Western Digital Caviar Green 1TB SATA 6Gb/s 64MB Cache - OEM (WD10EZRX) **SINGLE PLATTER** HDD £53.99
1 x Gigabyte H81M-D2V Intel H81 (Socket 1150) DDR3 Micro ATX Motherboard £51.95
1 x BitFenix Alchemy 24-Pin ATX Extension 30cm - sleeved black/red/black £7.49
1 x BitFenix 6-Pin PCIe Extension 45cm - sleeved black/red/black £5.99
2 x BitFenix Alchemy SATA 6GB/s braided cable 30cm - Red £5.99 (£11.98)
1 x BitFenix Molex to 4x SATA Adapter 20 cm - sleeved black/red/black £5.99
1 x BitFenix 8-Pin PCIe Extension 45cm - sleeved black/red/black £5.95
1 x BitFenix Alchemy 8-Pin EPS12V Extension 45cm - sleeved black/red/black £4.99
1 x BitFenix Alchemy Internal Audio Extension Adaptor 30cm - Red £4.49
1 x BitFenix Alchemy 2pin I/O extension 30cm - Red £3.95
Total : £1,444.60 (includes shipping : FREE).

I dont need windows, so thats 80 quid we could throw towards the gnu or mono?

oceaness · 25 Sep 2013 at 16:41

Ah I wasn't sure and forgot to ask.

Smidgen over but now you can overclock it and justify having the wicked water cooler lol

Also new board is Xfire compatible so if you wanted you could up the PSU to a 750W for an extra £36 and have the option of adding a second card later if you wanted to, could also sacrifice the water cooler for an air cooler to do this.

YOUR BASKET
1 x BenQ XL2411T 24" TRUE 144Hz 3D Vision 2.0 Widescreen LED Monitor - Black/Red £251.99
1 x MSI HD 7950 Twin Frozr III Boost Edition 3072MB GDDR5 PCI-Express Graphics Card **NEW REVISION** with FREE GAMES £199.99
1 x Intel Core i5-4670K 3.40GHz (Haswell) Socket LGA1150 Processor - OEM £191.99
1 x OcUK Tech Labs Fathom All in One Custom Cooler 240mm £112.97
- 1 x Mayhems X1 UV Red Premixed Watercooling Fluid 1L £7.99
- 1 x XSPC EX240 120mm Radiator - Black £41.99
1 x Gigabyte Z87M-D3H Intel Z87 (Socket 1150) DDR3 Micro ATX Motherboard £97.99
1 x Corsair Obsidian 350D Windowed Micro ATX Case - Black £94.99
1 x Samsung 120GB SSD 840 EVO SATA 6Gb/s Basic - (MZ-7TE120BW) £83.99
1 x CM Storm Quickfire TK Mechanical Keyboard - Red Switch £72.98
1 x Seasonic G series 550w '80 Plus Gold' Modular Power Supply £71.99
1 x Razer DeathAdder 2013 6400 DPI Essential Ergonomic Gaming Mouse £64.99
1 x Patriot Venom Red 8GB (2x4GB) DDR3 PC3-12800C9 1600MHz Dual Channel Memory Kit (PV38G160C9KRD) £59.99
1 x Western Digital Caviar Green 1TB SATA 6Gb/s 64MB Cache - OEM (WD10EZRX) **SINGLE PLATTER** HDD £53.99
1 x BitFenix Alchemy 24-Pin ATX Extension 30cm - sleeved black/red/black £7.49
1 x BitFenix Molex to 4x SATA Adapter 20 cm - sleeved black/red/black £5.99
2 x BitFenix Alchemy SATA 6GB/s braided cable 30cm - Red £5.99 (£11.98)
1 x BitFenix 6-Pin PCIe Extension 45cm - sleeved black/red/black £5.99
1 x BitFenix 8-Pin PCIe Extension 45cm - sleeved black/red/black £5.95
1 x BitFenix Alchemy 8-Pin EPS12V Extension 45cm - sleeved black/red/black £4.99
1 x BitFenix Alchemy Internal Audio Extension Adaptor 30cm - Red £4.49
1 x BitFenix Alchemy 2pin I/O extension 30cm - Red £3.95
Total : £1,458.65 (includes shipping : FREE).