Jeff I really can't see where you're going with this. What point are you trying to make? Please correct me if i'm wrong but i get the feeling that you don't fully understand deamination. If i am wrong then please could you explain your point of view fully and stop with this drip feeding of information which IMHO you're doing to make yourself appear more knowledgeable on the subject than you really are. I'll lay my cards on the table and say I know nothing more that what i have read on pages dragged up by google but if you've got some further experience that means you can teach us something then do it, enlighten us, don't frustrate us 
WRT to my point....
You asked me whether I concede that excess protein is turned in to glucose and/or fat. Of course i do but that was never the counter argument to my original point. My point was that protein shakes = fat is a myth. OK that's not a very clear explanation of my position so allow me to elaborate. The OP asked if he drinks a maximuscle shake and doesn't exercise will he maintain or slow the rate of his muscle loss. The classic internet answer is "my mate used protein shakes and just got fat" (See this thread for evidence Mass Monster). Well if the OP had asked if I eat a cream cake everyday will i maintain my physique then common sense says no, if he asked about eating an extra bowl of pasta or rice then again the answer would be no.
Too many people think that whey protein (protein shakes) are some kind of magical foodstuff that will turn you from zero to hero in a matter of weeks. Now that's not entirely surprising considering the amount of marketing BS that gets pumped out of various companies *ahem* Maxi-muscle *ahem* but the point is that excess of calories be they from fats, carbs or protein will lead to the storage of glucose and fat. That's just the way we're made.
Furthermore.........(this is turning into a bit of an epic post)
We need to define "excess" protein. When planning a diet the starting point is always the total number of calories needed per day. The next step is usually to set a total number of grams of protein needed per day. I know that Jeff likes a figure of 1-1.5gms per pound body weight, while others go higher at 2gms or more. Given that protein is, as Phnom_Penh points out, 4Kcals per gram (according to the USDA National Nutrient Database) then we can estimate how much of our total daily cals will come from protein. The remaining cals can be split between fats and carbs.
Keeping this in mind, I really don't see (subject to Jeffs clarification of the topic) how any protein in the diet that isn't needed for repair can be such a controversial topic. Surely using deamination the body can just break down the aminos in to glucose and fat and burn it as fuel (leaving aside the topic of efficiency)?
I'm going to try and pre-empt your reply. I guess that you're worried that a by product of the break down of aminos is ammonia that is then converted to urea and passed out the body in the urine (you mention this in your replay to Phnom_Penh). Again i'm going to add the caveat that subject to your further explanation, it is the job of the kidneys to remove these toxins. As i've stated previously, unless you are predisposed to having kidney problems this isn't an issue.
Thanks for listening, you've been a great audience, thank you and goodnight
WRT to my point....
You asked me whether I concede that excess protein is turned in to glucose and/or fat. Of course i do but that was never the counter argument to my original point. My point was that protein shakes = fat is a myth. OK that's not a very clear explanation of my position so allow me to elaborate. The OP asked if he drinks a maximuscle shake and doesn't exercise will he maintain or slow the rate of his muscle loss. The classic internet answer is "my mate used protein shakes and just got fat" (See this thread for evidence
Mass Monster). Well if the OP had asked if I eat a cream cake everyday will i maintain my physique then common sense says no, if he asked about eating an extra bowl of pasta or rice then again the answer would be no. Too many people think that whey protein (protein shakes) are some kind of magical foodstuff that will turn you from zero to hero in a matter of weeks. Now that's not entirely surprising considering the amount of marketing BS that gets pumped out of various companies *ahem* Maxi-muscle *ahem* but the point is that excess of calories be they from fats, carbs or protein will lead to the storage of glucose and fat. That's just the way we're made.
Furthermore.........(this is turning into a bit of an epic post
)We need to define "excess" protein. When planning a diet the starting point is always the total number of calories needed per day. The next step is usually to set a total number of grams of protein needed per day. I know that Jeff likes a figure of 1-1.5gms per pound body weight, while others go higher at 2gms or more. Given that protein is, as Phnom_Penh points out, 4Kcals per gram (according to the USDA National Nutrient Database) then we can estimate how much of our total daily cals will come from protein. The remaining cals can be split between fats and carbs.
Keeping this in mind, I really don't see (subject to Jeffs clarification of the topic) how any protein in the diet that isn't needed for repair can be such a controversial topic. Surely using deamination the body can just break down the aminos in to glucose and fat and burn it as fuel (leaving aside the topic of efficiency)?
I'm going to try and pre-empt your reply. I guess that you're worried that a by product of the break down of aminos is ammonia that is then converted to urea and passed out the body in the urine (you mention this in your replay to Phnom_Penh). Again i'm going to add the caveat that subject to your further explanation, it is the job of the kidneys to remove these toxins. As i've stated previously, unless you are predisposed to having kidney problems this isn't an issue.
Thanks for listening, you've been a great audience, thank you and goodnight
) of the body's need for protein and how it deals with it. After that point its scaremongery for those trying to limit carb intake. I'm not sure what part of this article appealed to you and why you cited it as a source. If it was to further reinforce the fact that protein can be processed in to glucose then you just wasted 15mins of my life 
) but i'm still not sure what your point about deamination is.