Maybe Upgrade

[cplnobbie]

Hi everyone,
Many thanks for the pervious help In making my pc better for flt sim 2020, What I would now like to know Is can I use any of the parts which are listed below Into making a better pc for Flt Sim 2020, I'm thinking maybe new cpu and motherboard and could I use any off the following parts to save on costs please.

1 x Intel Core i7-8700 (3.2Ghz) LGA1151 (would love to change out to AMD or something else)

Air CPU Cooler
1 x Raijintek Aidos Direct Contact CPU Cooler

RAM
1 x Corsair Vengeance® LPX 16GB (2x8GB) DDR4 DRAM 2666MHz C16

Graphics Card
1 x NVIDIA GeForce® GTX 1070 8GB GB

Motherboard
1 x ASUS PRIME H310M-E (Socket- 1151, 2x DDR4, Micro-ATX (would need a new board I'd say)

Storage HDD / SSHD
1 x 1TB 3.5" SATA III HDD

SSD
1 x ADATA XPG SX6000 256GB M.2 PCI Express 3.0 SSD

Optical Drive
1 x Asus DRW-24D5MT 24X Internal DVD Writer (Can be got rid off)

Add-on Card
1 x Wireless PCI Express Adapter 300Mbps

Case
1 x Corsair Carbide 100R Windowed

Power Supply Unit
AeroCool® Integrator 500W — 500 Watt 80 PLUS® Bronze PSU (may need a bigger supply)

Many Thanks
Anthony

 

[cplnobbie]

New gpu will probably give you the biggest boost in performance, what resoloution you gaming at and fps your getting in flight sim ?

FPS when I had most things open I needed went down to about 9 sometimes It even froze.

 

[cplnobbie]

You need more everything.

It’s one of those games that demands every part to be high performance.

I would also pretty much promise you that your motherboard is throttling your cpu, which isn’t helping.

Put a fan over the VRMs and see if that helps.

Ok If that's the case what should I drop In to replace the motherboard please

 

[cplnobbie]

Do you mean a complete system upgrade?

You could help your current rig by getting another 16gigs of ram and a high end graphics card but you’d probably need more CPU cores to also help.

MSFS downloads map data in the background so it’s constantly hitting your cpu and storage with fresh data.

It’s not like it loads a map and that’s it done.

There are people on this forum who can give you specific CPU advice for MSFS

Tetras​

Hi Jollyjama
Sorry I mean maybe upgrade the motherboard to say a B360 to help, after reading what I have is pretty much rubbish on a couple of sites.

 

[cplnobbie]

That socket is dead. Don’t invest more money in it when there are current chipsets that are faster and cheaper.

I’d probably suggest a min of 8 cores for your CPU and 32gigs of RAM with MSFS.

Ok thanks for that, any makes or motherboards that jump out that you may recommend me having a look at then please.

 

[cplnobbie]

First things first, since no one asked or you haven't offered.

How much budget do you have?

Not too much as in current climate money is tight like everyone, But £500 maybe a little more but don't want the wife to take my balls If you get my meaning.

 

[cplnobbie]

Ah, you aren't going to get far with that budget.

This would be my suggestion but it's out of your budget

My basket at OcUK:

• 1 x Corsair Vengeance RGB PRO Black 32GB (2x16GB) 3600MHz AMD Ryzen Tuned DDR4 Memory Dual Kit (SKU: MY-4CK-CS) = £149.99
• 1 x MSI B450 TOMAHAWK MAX II (Socket AM4) DDR4 ATX Motherboard (SKU: MB-35U-MS) = £59.99
• 1 x AMD Ryzen 7 5800X 3D Cache Eight Core 4.5GHz (Socket AM4) Processor - Retail (SKU: CP-3D0-AM) = £479.98
• 1 x Corsair RMx Series RMx750 750W '80 Plus Gold' Modular Power Supply (CP-9020179-UK) (SKU: CA-23W-CS) = £114.95
• 1 x Inno3D GeForce RTX 3080 Twin X2 OC LHR 10GB GDDR6X PCI-Express Graphics Card (SKU: GX-07M-IN) = £739.99
• 1 x Arctic Freezer A13X CO AMD CPU Cooler - 92mm (SKU: HS-07H-AR) = £23.00

Total: £1,579.00 (includes delivery: £11.10)​

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Thanks for that that does help to give me some sort of starting point.

 

[cplnobbie]

GPU then, but I'd wait until the 4000 series are out, and see what that does to 3000 series pricing. You should be able to pick up an RTX 3080 for £400-500 which will leave you room for PSU when you sell your GTX 1070, you'll need an 850w unit. Then you'll need a CPU/mobo and more RAM, another £500+ later down the line.

Many thanks for your reply, that really does help me.

 

[cplnobbie]

You'll definitely need a new PSU if you want to upgrade to an RTX 3000 or 4000 series.

I might add 16gigs of RAM to your current rig and a new PSU to tide you over.

Edit: maybe just get this to avoid compatibility issues.

Kingston Fury Beast 32GB (2x16GB) DDR4 PC4-28800C18 3600MHz Dual Channel Kit

Order Kingston Fury Beast 32GB (2x16GB) DDR4 PC4-28800C18 3600MHz Dual Channel Kit now online and benefit from fast delivery.

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Hi JollyJamma,
I take It they would fit my currant board ok and what difference would they make please to my currant set up, sorry as you can see I'm not really tech savvy

 

[cplnobbie]

Go read this, you might need a bigger SSD too

Microsoft Flight Simulator Performance and Benchmarks: Your PC May Need an Upgrade

Microsoft Flight Simulator is one of the most demanding games currently available.

www.tomshardware.com

Read this too

Microsoft Flight Simulator 2020 Benchmarked

Today we're benchmarking a cargo plane load of graphics cards in the new Microsoft Flight Simulator 2020. Visually the game is breathtaking and we'd say that we're...

www.techspot.com

Thanks for that, yes makes interesting reading.

 

[cplnobbie]

Just looking at some Reddit threads with regards to RAM usage for FS2020 and it can make use of more than 16gigs of RAM in certain situations but 16gigs will work.

What are your current visual settings in the game? Medium generally seems to be the most recommended.

Yes going to try It on Med now but I think Nvidia sets It to low for opt performance, went Into my settings In the game and dropped the frame rate to 30ps

 

[cplnobbie]

You do know that 30 FPS for your system is correct?

Nope lol, Did say I know very little about pc stuff....

 

[cplnobbie]

I do really feel that I need to loose this motherboard for something better which I can put all these other parts back onto.

 

[cplnobbie]

No, ignore that. Just put a fan over the VRMs to keep them cool which will help performance.

You do not want to waste money on an outdated system.

what's sort of fan (stupid question)

 

[cplnobbie]

You could also consider getting a 5700X (£270) and a cheap B450 motherboard, keeping your RAM and getting a new psu.

The 5700X Has 8 cores 16 threads and is a very tidy upgrade.

The new AM5 socket is going to be DDR5 only so very expensive. Rocket lake is also going to be expensive.

Socket 1700 has the Some great CPUs too, I just can’t help but point out how cheap a B450 motherboard is.

You could then save up and get a 4080 in September, it really depends.

Your whole rig needs to be improved upon to play MSFS

Lol I have so many windows open trying to see what all these things are, getting confused lol.

 

[cplnobbie]

No worries. Do your research.

The 12700KF plus a good Z690 motherboard (MSI- Pro is £169 and good) would be a great upgrade

Intel Core i7-12700KF 3.60GHz (Alder Lake) Socket LGA1700 Processor - Retail

Order Intel Core i7-12700KF 3.60GHz (Alder Lake) Socket LGA1700 Processor - Retail now online and benefit from fast delivery.

www.overclockers.co.uk

Now that does look a tasty upgrade

 

[cplnobbie]

It’s very tasty.

12th gen very nearly made me ditch my current rig (in sig) for a 12600KF and a B660 ITX build.

I bought a surfboard instead.

Just know that there is 13th gen coming in September but it’ll probably be more expensive.

Hi JollyJamma
I got offered an GTX 2060 super today do you think It's worth It

 

[cplnobbie]

£247 If I give my old one

 

[cplnobbie]

I don't like it for that price. I would be happy to pay £180.

I've seen an RTX 2080 for £300 so rather check the market out and see what the second hand pricing is before you commit.

where Is the best place to look as I was told the bay Is a big no no thanks.

 

[cplnobbie]

Gigabyte GeForce RTX 2060 SUPER GAMING OC 3X 8G Is the one I saw, but so many different types of 2060