MBA Acceptance

[TW]Fox;18527506 said:
No, I'm not even an engineer.

Though I'm suprised you were not, given how you were trying to come across in this thread :p
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Only time Foxey. I have yet to complete my chartership. I'm too busy doing 'real work' to do the extra to finish it!
 
Dabbles said:
Only time Foxey. I have yet to complete my chartership. I'm too busy doing 'real work' to do the extra to finish it!
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I have never heard any engineer refer to themselves as a "professional engineer".

Are you an openreach techie?

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aproctor said:
I have never heard any engineer refer to themselves as a "professional engineer".

Are you an openreach techie?
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No, I design control systems for the offshore industry. I referred to 'professional engineer' to distiguish from those who misuse the title 'Engineer'. Like plumbers (gas engineers) and technicians who refer themselves as engineers.
 
Dabbles said:
No, I design control systems for the offshore industry. I referred to 'professional engineer' to distiguish from those who misuse the title 'Engineer'. Like plumbers (gas engineers) and technicians who refer themselves as engineers.
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Sounds interesting.

What do you actually design?
 
aproctor said:
Sounds interesting.

What do you actually design?
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Control systems for equipment used in the oil and gas industry. Taking power from a vessel and using it to power and control systems for use on the back deck of ships and subsea. Taking customer specifications and requirements and making them into real systems. My company is primarily mechanical design, my department are responsible for 'bringing those systems to life'.
 
I hate having engineer in my official job title, I always leave it out when saying what I do.

Ironically I have a degree in engineering.
 
Back to the original post, I think it highly unlikely you'd find a decent business school that will accept you. I needed a 2:1 for my MBA, and it's not exactly a proper/standard MBA.

With regards to Dabbles. Since I've started my MBA I've gone back into the field I was previously in, doing exactly the same thing. Does this mean I'm no longer able to walk, but can only talk?
 
Dabbles said:
Control systems for equipment used in the oil and gas industry. Taking power from a vessel and using it to power and control systems for use on the back deck of ships and subsea. Taking customer specifications and requirements and making them into real systems. My company is primarily mechanical design, my department are responsible for 'bringing those systems to life'.
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I also did a degree in Electronic Engineering, became a full member of the IET (as it's now known) with a hope to become a fellow and so on, but I lost interest in that field and didn't continue to become chartered. Although looking back I should have done it really.

However, as professional as one can be, one still needs a manager. Ideally a manager that has an understanding of the industry and perhaps a background in engineering - irrespective of that a manager doesn't necessarily needs to know all the ins and out of electronics (for example) if he understands business models and is able to deal with people in such a way as to be productive for the company. Sure if he doesn't understand a process (be it a business process, or design process, it doesn't matter) it will make him/her less effective - however, just because you have come across less than perfect managers don't believe for one second there aren't very capable managers out there.

I have a lot of respect for those who seek to improve their skills - an MBA requires a LOT of work and dedication. See it as almost a "chartered" management certification if you will. Don't dismiss it because they can't do Fourier transforms - it's not fair and a little short sighted. :)
 
Slightly off-topic, but given some of the opinions on here based in experience, thought i'd ask it :)

MBA from a good place is respected. What is the view on Masters in Management from a top place? Is it just not 'as good' or pretty much worthless?
 
OP who do you work for now? Do they offer any schemes for sponsorship?
My company offers this; full time course at Cranfield whilst on your full salary and all your expenses paid for, but you need to be on the path towards senior management to begin with or show very high potential.
 
Thanks for all the replies, even the un-related ones that served purely as entertainment (Dabbles!)

After having a good think about this I have decided that to set myself up in better standing I need to break back into education, get my head into the student way of thinking and build up from a good foundation.

With this in mind I am looking at starting a part time Business and Enterprise foundation degree over the next 2 years alongside my job (Yes Dabbles I Work 40 hours a week and will continue to do so!)

I think once I have this behind me I will be in the right mindset to further this into a honours Degree in business. I will then re-evaluate my situation and decide if an MBA is still for me. Wish me luck, I am awaiting confirmation that I can get a place on the course this May!
 
[TW]Fox;18527061 said:
A proper MBA is much better than a normal Masters, opens more doors, and costs more money.
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Depends on the masters tbh...

But yes an MBA from a top school will often open doors in terms of getting access to high paying middle management roles.
 
dowie said:
Slightly dubious that Oxford and Cambridge haven't made this supposed 'top 10' yet 'Bradford' has???
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I don't know about Oxford but I believe that the Cambridge Judge Business School equivalent is (probably for reasons of being different and tradition) not described as an MBA :confused:
 
Dabbles said:
Professional Engineer.
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I was always under the impression that MBAs were for exactly people like us with techical degrees. Once we have some experience under our belt we can take an MBA to give us skills to become effective in a managerial role.

So essentially the people you seem to dislike are people like you :confused:
 
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