MCSE qualification

kitten_caboodle · 27 Apr 2007 at 10:11

Admiral Huddy said:
I need to have the MCSE certified in my adverts in yellow pages etc.. to be more competitive.. simple as really. The A+ provided a good starting block.

KB.. I would be interested.. are they the server 2003 ?

IT'S KC

I'll find out for you

kitten_caboodle · 27 Apr 2007 at 10:32

ok, have spoken to him indoors and he said he'll have a chat with you later about it.

Admiral Huddy · 27 Apr 2007 at 10:33

kitten_caboodle said:
IT'S KC I'll find out for you

Dooh.. You know what i'm like lol

kitten_caboodle · 27 Apr 2007 at 10:34

Admiral Huddy said:
Dooh.. You know what i'm like lol

I certainly do

Admiral Huddy · 27 Apr 2007 at 10:35

messiah khan said:
The though is still in the back of my mind, but I recon im unlikely to go on to do a MCSA/MCSE or any other pure IT course tbh. Thats one thing that can be said for the A+, it has shown me that I don't want to do pure IT, and how boring it can be.

Tell me about it..

Thanks for the heads up Gilly.. That might be a point worth considering. I'm only after the damn title after all.. Consumer Comfort and all that.

kitten_caboodle · 27 Apr 2007 at 10:38

Don't forget you only have to pass 1 exam to become an MCP (Microsoft Certified Professional).

Snow-Munki · 27 Apr 2007 at 12:49

kitten_caboodle said:
Don't forget you only have to pass 1 exam to become an MCP (Microsoft Certified Professional).

but 6 to get MSCE'ed right ??

Yas786 · 27 Apr 2007 at 13:12

Snow-Munki said:
but 6 to get MSCE'ed right ??

I think so, its been awhile since i did my MCSE/MCSA myself...still got the course books somewhere.

MCSE is a handy qualification to have although without any experience ie real life i mean you will struggle to get a job..perhaps a support role but thats about it. For most employers including myself, i see it as nothing more than a checkmark on a CV. What matters to most employers i imagine is what sort of experience that you have along with the MCSE/MCSA. Think i ended up learning a lot more through my own studying ie building a server and whacking on Win2k server and messing about with it rather than what i learned through the classroom.

kitten_caboodle · 27 Apr 2007 at 13:18

Snow-Munki said:
but 6 to get MSCE'ed right ??

Yeah, i think it's 5 for an MCSA but if you're going to do them both you should do the MCSE first as it works out that you have to do 1 less exam or something, some of the optional ones are core in the MCSA I think. I can't quite remember now (it's me age!) but I think that's how it worked.

Manni · 27 Apr 2007 at 13:22

I'm doing the MCSE at the moment, and its 7 exams. I graduated with a Computer Science degree in 2003 and been out of the IT field since then and only using the MCSE as a very basic qualification, and hopefully I’ll go on to become a VCP after I've got the MCSE out of the way...

benktlottie · 27 Apr 2007 at 13:25

TBH, not worth wasting your money on. Unless you have several years experience on the CV, having an MCSE wont benefit you. Theres too many 'paper MCSE's' out there, and employers (like me) can spot them a mile away, as they tend to answer techie questions word for word from the books! Paper MCSE's are dangerous as they tend not to think outside the box, and will generally make mistakes because they mis-disgnose problems...

Whats your current job? And does it actually require you to be an MCSE ?

Rotty · 27 Apr 2007 at 13:25

Knowing your line of business I would just say take anything , MCP etc and then you can use "microsoft certified" in your ads

Admiral Huddy · 27 Apr 2007 at 14:34

Rotty said:
Knowing your line of business I would just say take anything , MCP etc and then you can use "microsoft certified" in your ads

Another good point Rotty.

Is the MCP a seperate exam or do you obtain this after passing any of the modules?

Yas786 · 27 Apr 2007 at 14:35

Admiral Huddy said:
Another good point Rotty.

Is the MCP a seperate exam or do you obtain this after passing any of the modules?

Its part of the MCSE exams...you just have to pass the first one to get MCP status...and the first one is **** easy really...

Rotty · 27 Apr 2007 at 14:48

Admiral Huddy said:
Another good point Rotty.

Is the MCP a seperate exam or do you obtain this after passing any of the modules?

pick any module , one of them = MCP

"micorsoft certified professional" would look good to 99% of your prospective punters

kitten_caboodle · 27 Apr 2007 at 14:50

Admiral Huddy said:
Another good point Rotty.

Is the MCP a seperate exam or do you obtain this after passing any of the modules?

AHEM!!!

Me said:
Don't forget you only have to pass 1 exam to become an MCP (Microsoft Certified Professional).

m4cc45 · 27 Apr 2007 at 15:10

Microsoft Certified Systems Administrator
4 Exams (1 Elective)

Microsoft Certified Systems Engineer
7 Exams (2 Electives)

Other exams can help as well (such as Microsoft Certified Desktop Support Technician = 1 Elective).

It's a very confusing path and you can then addon MCSE+M (Messaging) or +I (Internet). I personally think they are worth it due to the most employers wanting MCSE or MCSA for whatever reason. I agree experience is a lot better but this also shows you have knowledge of the operating system. Especially since now the exams are becomming more and more simulation based.

M.

daztrouk · 27 Apr 2007 at 16:44

**bookmarks thread**

I've got a lot of the learning material already, been going through it recently to improve on my knowledge. Will be looking into doing an MCSE in the near future. As others have said, i do feel its a key when looking for a job (along with the hands on experience) as so many employers state it as a requirement in the job advert.

Admiral Huddy · 27 Apr 2007 at 19:55

kitten_caboodle said:
AHEM!!!

Sorry

I'm a nawty?

Messiah Khan · 27 Apr 2007 at 20:02

Connected to all this... Whereabouts on a CV would qualifications like this go? Under education or skills?