MegaUpload has been shut down

That piratebay press release is the most pretentious load of BS I've seen for a long while.

Hollywood (et al) are content creators. People want the content they create. They want it enough to search for it, and download it.

piratebay doesn't create anything. Along with MegaUpload, they simply take other people's work, and publish it without their consent.

How that makes them "better than Hollywood" (their words) I fail to comprehend. That they think they are "competition" is laughable. They are pirates, and nothing more.

They never said they were creators.

Pirate Bay is in fact a service, a better service than what the corporations offer and thus it thrives.
 
They never said they were creators.

Pirate Bay is in fact a service, a better service than what the corporations offer and thus it thrives.

Well they don't have to pay for anything except server costs, and they offer all of their content - no, wait, someone else's content - for free.

How could anyone compete on those terms?
 
Well they don't have to pay for anything except server costs, and they offer all of their content - no, wait, someone else's content - for free.

How could anyone compete on those terms?

It's just about ease of access to content, if the corporations caught on to that use of sites such as tpb may drop. Hence why steam does so well.
 
It's just about ease of access to content, if the corporations caught on to that use of sites such as tpb may drop. Hence why steam does so well.

No, it's about _free_ access to content. Piratebay would be just as popular even if it was very difficult to get the content, as long as you could get it free. Just as newsgroups used to be and BBSs back in the days where people where spending inordinate amounts of time and using a lot of technical skills, just to get something for free.

The premise of TPB statement is completely misdirected and I can't understand how they themselves can't see how delusional they are in what they are saying. Holywood took stories and recreated them in a new format (ignore the patent issue for a moment), they did not duplicate them and resold them. no one will stop you taking the plot of a movie and adapting it to a movie you make (many movies share the same plots anyway, and there are dozens of versions of the same book etc.), that's not copyright infringment. So the whole idea of Holywood infringing on Edison's copyright is laughable.

Yes, they bypassed his patent by relocating studios (if it's even true..) and that is/was illegal, but different laws apply to different countries even today, so it doesn't really stack up anyway.
 
Piratebays take on it for another angle:

What a load of self righteous trash - What have these little parasites ever created in their lives other than a "pipe" to steal others work?

I agree that sadly that so much stuff around today is unimaginative, diravative rubbish but so what. I don't buy it and yet mange to resist the temptation to download it and later tut and cluck at how worthless it is...

I am still not convinced one way or another if piracy is as damaging as some people would have us believe but the hyprocrisy of people who download stuff for free who then watch/listen/play (to) it, only to bleat how bad it is stinks.

And then the whole argument over how expensive stuff is, and yet people apparently are still downloading £0.99 apps etc shows what the real motivation is here. People are cheap and nasty and if they think they can get away with it then they will.

IMHO, It doesn't matter how much these corporations are raking in - Somebody must still be daft enough to keep throwing their money in their direction yet still feel they are getting value for money. Or are the public that stupid? Maybe if that's the case then they get what they deserve?

Now, these corporations could really do themselves a few favours by not treating their genuine customers like criminals/idiots by not putting dire warnings and un skippable trailers etc in their disks or putting objectionable DRM in games etc.

I am 100% convinced that no matter what the content providers come up with, how convenient or cheap, there will always be a significant bunch of little whiners who are jealous of others success and/or who are simply thieves who will acquire stuff for free and somehow try to justify it all in the perceived greed of the providers.
 
No, it's about _free_ access to content. Piratebay would be just as popular even if it was very difficult to get the content, as long as you could get it free. Just as newsgroups used to be and BBSs back in the days where people where spending inordinate amounts of time and using a lot of technical skills, just to get something for free.

The premise of TPB statement is completely misdirected and I can't understand how they themselves can't see how delusional they are in what they are saying. Holywood took stories and recreated them in a new format (ignore the patent issue for a moment), they did not duplicate them and resold them. no one will stop you taking the plot of a movie and adapting it to a movie you make (many movies share the same plots anyway, and there are dozens of versions of the same book etc.), that's not copyright infringment. So the whole idea of Holywood infringing on Edison's copyright is laughable.

Yes, they bypassed his patent by relocating studios (if it's even true..) and that is/was illegal, but different laws apply to different countries even today, so it doesn't really stack up anyway.

Yes there are a certain percentage that torrent because its free but if they were unable to fileshare the chances are that they would not buy the content anyway. A lot of people myself included use file sharing when its more convenient than a paid for service, for example ubisoft games and downloading tv shows not available in this country. However i have over a 100 games in steam and have bought two humble indie bundles, why? because they offer a service worth the money.
 
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I imagine these sorts of sites will start dropping like flies now.

Let's be honest, we all know illegal stuff exist on them all.. Rapidshare, Fileserve, Filesonic, Mediafire, the list goes on and on.

It's simply impossible for the people who maintain these sites to check each and every file.
 
It's simply impossible for the people who maintain these sites to check each and every file.

they don't have to.
All they have to do is meet certain requirements to be safeguarded under US law. Namely remove such content when it is requested by the rights holder.
 
And then the whole argument over how expensive stuff is, and yet people apparently are still downloading £0.99 apps etc shows what the real motivation is here. People are cheap and nasty and if they think they can get away with it then they will.

Some, no, most of the films of today are so bad, i doubt they would sell even for 99p.

'Big' films, i usually go and see at the Cinema, but truth be told its a terrible experience these days.

I would much rather bypass the cinema and be able to enjoy a new release in the comfort of my own home, without having to wait 6 months first.
In the past I have downloaded a new film, just to avoid having to suffer that crap-hole =/
Out-dated service, out-dated principles.
 
they don't have to.
All they have to do is meet certain requirements to be safeguarded under US law. Namely remove such content when it is requested by the rights holder.

I thought they already did that?

Or at least attempted to as much as possible, obviously when millions of people use the service it's hard to maintain, not to mention files slipping through undetected.

Renamed uploads, passworded files, shared amongst private communities, you get the idea.
 
I thought they already did that?

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Nope. Read the freak torrent article A page or two ago.
Basically when people upload a file on megaupload, it's given a unique hash, if that file already exists, it doesn't upload the file, just generates a new unique URL for the user.
The report copyright procedure, only removed that particular URL and not the file or the other hundreds of unique URLs for that file. So they didn't actually remove the files at all.
On top of that they knew there was copyrighted material as this isn't the first run in with the law and failed to implement a better system. A system they already used for child pornography that actually deleted the file.
On top of that they claim to have hundreds of emails from the owners and staff talking and sharing links of the copyrighted files.
 
This does not surprise me at all and I really have no sympathy, the business basically ran off people uploading illegal material. You'd have to be incredibly naive to believe that megaupload was designed for legal use.
 
I wonder if the authorities will bother going through some Apache logs and chasing individuals who have been downloading illegal files, they could make some nice profits.
 
I wonder if the authorities will bother going through some Apache logs and chasing individuals who have been downloading illegal files, they could make some nice profits.

It would take them a while, MU is the biggest filesharing site on the net IIRC.

Lets hope they don't do that with FS :p
 
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