Poll: Mensa

Would you be a member of Mensa?

  • Already a member

    Votes: 21 7.0%
  • Could be a member if I could be bothered

    Votes: 87 29.0%
  • I don't think I would get in

    Votes: 39 13.0%
  • I don't know if I'd get in or not (and I don't care)

    Votes: 153 51.0%

  • Total voters
    300
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This was inspired from another thread that claimed Quentin Tarantino was a member of Mensa. Honestly, I was a bit disappointed.

I think when I was a bit younger I liked the idea of joining Mensa. The prestige and glory of being smarter than the average bear - how desirable. These days I tend to think it's a club for nobs.

Is intelligence a good thing? On the whole, the answer must be a resounding yes. But you need to know when to show it. Smartness for the sake of smartness is often pomposity. People that like to make out they are smart are often royal chumbers of the Nth degree. Sometimes people who are trying to be smartarses just come across as jackasses. I'm reminded of when someone on here tried to argue to the death on here that people with tattoos are probably more stupid - a needless argument that could only serve to alienate you from your peers.

Intelligence is a very subjective thing and I've made approximately 21,936 posts (give or take), splitting it up into raw intelligence, perseverance and common sense. I tend to find people with high amounts of the former often lack the latter. An abundance of 'merely' the latter two can take you places that most people could only dream of.

I tend to judge people on their soft skills - their friendliness, their charisma and charm. I find joining a club that displays your intellectuality needless and arrogant.

Is Mensa a club for nobs? Or am I being overly critical and cynical? Am I simply thick as ****? Maybe all three!
 
I like intelligent people.

I dislike intelligent people who feel the need to correct every single thing you say (aka know it alls).
 
One thing I've learnt about myself over the past few years is that I'm not as clever as I once thought.

My opinion is that there are a lot of people on this forum who need to realise the same :p
 
I don't see what's wrong with people forming clubs with others who have similar qualities/interests. Most people will want to have someone to talk to who is of a similar capability to them. It's like talking to a child, it's fine for some time, but after a while, you do need to talk to someone who is of a similar intellect level, or at least someone who you can hold a vaguely interesting conversation with.

That being said, social skills are just as important as intelligence IMO. As you said, it's all about when to show your intelligent that's important. Many intelligent people seem to be unbelievably full of themselves and take time out of their supposedly important and busy lives to condescend and belittle those who they deem to be of a lesser capability than them. On the flip side, there are many geniuses who are just nice people to everyone! :)

My point is really, whether you're stupid or a genius, you'll want to hang out with other people similar to you and you'll get *****s and nice people in both groups.
 
I think it is like anything that someone is good at, they can be proud and happy about their skill/achievement or be a show off with it.

I do find an inverse relationship between intelligence and people skills at each end though which is a shame.
 
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Implying that everyone is mensa is a ***? Generalisation can make you sound like the thing you despise you know. ;)

Ok, I can make an exception to those who rarely tell anyone they are in mensa.
It's just a circlejerk after all, hence I see no problem with saying the majority of them are *****.
 
This was inspired from another thread that claimed Quentin Tarantino was a member of Mensa. Honestly, I was a bit disappointed.

I think when I was a bit younger I liked the idea of joining Mensa. The prestige and glory of being smarter than the average bear - how desirable. These days I tend to think it's a club for nobs.

Is intelligence a good thing? On the whole, the answer must be a resounding yes. But you need to know when to show it. Smartness for the sake of smartness is often pomposity. People that like to make out they are smart are often royal chumbers of the Nth degree. Sometimes people who are trying to be smartarses just come across as jackasses. I'm reminded of when someone on here tried to argue to the death on here that people with tattoos are probably more stupid - a needless argument that could only serve to alienate you from your peers.

Intelligence is a very subjective thing and I've made approximately 21,936 posts (give or take), splitting it up into raw intelligence, perseverance and common sense. I tend to find people with high amounts of the former often lack the latter. An abundance of 'merely' the latter two can take you places that most people could only dream of.

I tend to judge people on their soft skills - their friendliness, their charisma and charm. I find joining a club that displays your intellectuality needless and arrogant.

Is Mensa a club for nobs? Or am I being overly critical and cynical? Am I simply thick as ****? Maybe all three!

I feel like you're being slightly critical. I'm not a member myself, but I have considered applying. Why? Why not? It's an achievement, of sorts. If I got in, I wouldn't brag to the world about it, ok, I might post it here, but probably only in TIAM, but apart from that, I'm hardly going to tell everyone I meet... I also feel it would be interesting to know my IQ, and it seems it's one of the easiest ways to do so. That said, becoming a member wouldn't change who I am. Why would it? I feel like my morals are strong enough not to be influenced by something that is effectively just a club. That said, now a days, I'm not sure I need justification to think I'm more intelligent than the average joe. Don't get me wrong, I certainly don't think I'm infallible, and I also would admit there's plenty of people smarter, and more knowledgeable in many many fields. I just don't have that much faith in the average joe :p Thankfully, I'd say that the majority of OcUKians are also more intelligent than the average joe as well... Frankly, the chances of me applying as well, are very slim. Why? As I said, I don't feel I need justification that I'm smarter than the average joe, I don't need to prove whether I'm intelligent or not, and I don't really care too much as I have no insecurity about my intelligence. As I say, now a days, the biggest appeal would probably be finding out my IQ.

Intelligence, is on the whole, of course a relatively good thing. Seeing as it has been discussed, my vague recollection of Tarantino, in particular, was that he used his vast IQ to remember huge amounts of details regarding films which he then applied to his directing.

That said, I agree that soft skills are often more important. They're certainly important on influencing how far you might advance in the world. You can be as intelligent as you like, if you're an arrogant **** who isn't particularly likeable, you're unlikely to ever make it in a business.

I also agree that it is even rarer to find someone with both intelligence and common sense, and the second is arguably more important than the first, although I would include logic under the umbrella 'common sense'.

Edit: I do however also agree with basically what David Mitchell said. Generally speaking, it is people that feel a need to justify and prove their intelligence that apply rather than those genuinely intelligent.

kd
 
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I've looked in to it in the past but decided there wasn't really anything to gain from it. What do I do, stick it on my CV, something which probably wouldn't endear me to a prospective employer. It's not something I can talk to my friends about nor do I feel the need to validate myself. I've done similar tests in the past and know that I'm ranked in the top 5 percentile in the country for things like logical reasoning and the top 1 percentile for Mathematical reasoning (though my speed and accuracy was abysmal) and was even encouraged at the time to apply for Mensa by my teacher.

On the other hand, I'm absolutely rubbish with people. It takes a long time for me to get comfortable with new people and until then I can be very guarded, sometimes even suspicious. I never recognise faces and can find it very hard to strike up a conversation, when I do the other person can sometimes be put off by the way I speak. Apparently I sound very posh. Gaining Mensa membership most likely won't help me at all in that regard.
 
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