Microsoft allows bypass of Vista activation
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stoofa said:
Your missing my point entirely stoofa. If your happy with WGA, that is fine. If you accept being stopped because you have nothing to hide, that is fine. Thank god not everyone thinks the same way as you and that others such as myself will continue to fight against a police state and intrusions of privacy from large corporations.
I am not condoning piracy like you imply with your casual dismissal of the fundamental principle of innocent until proven guilty. However I am rather annoyed that it is the genuine consumers who have paid money have to prove they have paid, whilst the pirates who have paid nothing never get hassled. If you cannot understand that frustration then I am sorry. But then I am sorry that you do not have the conviction to question authority and you seem to easily accept what our grandfathers fought so valiantly to oppose in the WW2.
Trial with out jury. Being stopped without justification. Considering taking DNA samples for littering. Having to actually prove (yes, prove Gareth) the software you paid £300 is yours, and having to prove this on demand. And then being told by spineless people I should just accept this if I have nothing to hide and its no hassle to show a few documents.
I disagree with ever increasing fascist state that the UK is becoming. And if you think I am being stupid in arguing about WGA and other the other stupid laws being suggested by this pathetic labour party then I suggest you go and tidy your rooms and clean up your hard drives ready for your masters next inspection. You never know when they might click their fingers. Off you run.
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stoofa said:
yep it is nice and simple.. i don't have to prove yourself.. MS only asks about 3 simple questions.. i can't understand why people are getting worryed or angry about it... 5mins of your life is nothing..
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the-void said:
OK, so how would you secure you software (not just OS) from piracy, the whole industry has a problem with piracy hence why you see hardware dongles, license key, WGA etc.
I agree that it is annoying if you are a consumer to be reminded constantly about pirates but MS isn't the only company doing it.
You only have to look around the forums with lots of people with Vista Premium, Adobe CS etc. etc. ££££ worth of software on these people are at school/students. OK you could say that they may have paid out the £1000's that this software cost, or you could be more cynical and say it's probably pirated.
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I think in the case of Adobe, they really aren't concerned about individuals pirating things like Photoshop. They really do benefit from it I reckon. It's so expensive that there's no way most people would consider buying it for personal purposes, so they would just use something else. Then if they ever turn it into a career, Adobe gets nothing because they are used to a different program. If they get Photoshop illegitimitely, they get used to that and if they ever go into business they will probably buy a license for it (after all, it's expensive to a person, but to a business it's not really).HEADRAT said:
And more on topic, I didn't pay a penny for Vista and I didn't have to resort to piracy. Got to love the MSDN Academic Alliance
HEADRAT said:
That's my point, despite all their best efforts and despite WGA the industry still has a problem with piracy. How long has Vista been out and how quick did it take to hack it. I also imagine it's relatively easy to find Vista on a torrent complete with hack, same for Photoshop as well.
You cannot ever come up with a reliable method of securing a product, such as WGA or anything else. Whatever digital lock's you put on, someone can take off.
So whilst legitimate owners have to suffer dongles, activating products and phoning up places to answer even 1 question those who haven't paid a penny do not have to any of this. Despite it being relatively simple to make that phone call or activate that product it's the principle of having to do it (just because i had the cheek to pay for it) that bugs me. I am positive I am not alone in feeling this way.
Whilst some people seem prepared to put up with ever increasing intrusions you will find that others are not so accommodating. If it gets any worse then perhaps I am better off not supporting the software industry and visiting a couple of torrent sites and download a pirated copy complete with patch and be free of product activation or phoning MS/adobe ever again.
Putting more and more hoops for legitimate people to jump through whilst those who use pirated software don't have to jump through any is never going to solve piracy. Just like adding DRM on music has failed to stop Mp3 piracy, especially when you can buy a CD without any copy protection and rip to mp3 using windows media player and then share with the rest of the world.
All it does is lock you into a specific type of hardware player.there is no point in companies putting more and more locks on their front door and asking people to juggle a pocket full of keys when the side window is open.
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Well there is nothing to stop me from driving up to a petrol station and filling up, or taking things from the shops without paying for them apart from one thing, it's illegal!
I hate queuing up to pay for petrol and shopping
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I hate queuing up to pay for petrol and shopping
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They will only bring out a hotfix that stops that, but then someone will just get by it again just like XP, and why do ya always get smart arses on this forum who just think they are funny when really they aint. G
zen62619 said:
some people wanna be right always.. it's like when a person likes a brand or product and if some people don't agree with that they will call that person a fanboy (it's so silly and childish) e.g i put i prefer amd in a thread and some people called me fanboy...
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Once you have bought your shopping or petrol you don't get home and have someone waiting to check what's in your bag and tank matches the till receipts, do you? You wouldn't put up with them calling again the next day, just to make sure you really did buy those goods. How about they went through your bin, to make sure that your really, really bought those goods. How about they went through your house and checked your cupboards without you knowing and without asking - you know, just to make damn sure you really did buy those products after all. And not only that, but they made themselves a key to let themselves in at any time and if they ever suspect you put something in your basket that isn't on the till receipt, they will lock you out of your own house until you have answered a few of their questions. Don't kid me you would put up with that.
I am not prepared for anyone to threaten to lock me out of my own computer, even for the briefest of time, that holds personal, private and priceless (to me - pictures, videos of my children growing up, etc) because they think I have pirated their software despite the fact I have a credit card statement, the retail box, the retail dvd, and the damn receipt itself.
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gareth170 said:
Some people just can't face it when they are wrong. I acctually think I read that post about liking AMD over Intel. Its choice.
I was over in MSFN forums few days ago and some kid who was 12 was telling everyone he was a friend of the network admin's at his school and the network admin give him full access with admin rights. Like no.... Guess some people on forums just think they are worlds best. Can't people admit when they really don't know and aint a clue. never mind!
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Result! I have just used this to extend my evaluation copy until i can find out if i can get a x64 bit version thanks to winning the launch dev comp.! 
