Microsoft has announced the retirement of the TechNet Subscriptions service
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That would be fine, however with accreditation of systems outside your company or organisation it can take MUCH longer than 180 days. Plus client testing / voc / service assurance. If you build a system for a client lets say with 15 servers with cloud and 50 workstations you'ld normally cut that down in non-production to 5 servers and 10 workstations. Now by my working that is non-production as a test network, under Technet that would be a flat fee, under my estimates for a license it's either MSDN (which is not strictly allowed by their EULA) or £24,500+ for production licenses (which the client would not pay for or may not want at the end of the cycle).
It's not as straight forward if you are essentially building systems for other people internally, but then selling complete systems externally. Even from a cloud centric standpoint that doesn't make sense. Not everyone has everything with in their company with 100% control over timescales.
Gazza raises valid points there too - Technet does provide functionality beyond Microsofts normal licensing scenarios.
90 days is not long enough for any decent POC of enterprise complexity the millisecond you hit any sort of issue.
TechNet was amazing but I suspect it was widely abused. I'll hazard a guess that the MSDN terms have changed or will change to allow you to use the software in the same way that you could use TechNet (absolutely not the case last time I looked). Maybe there will be a new tier of MSDN for non-developer enterprise use cases, or maybe we will have to get unlimited eval use sw built into our EA...
TechNet was amazing but I suspect it was widely abused. I'll hazard a guess that the MSDN terms have changed or will change to allow you to use the software in the same way that you could use TechNet (absolutely not the case last time I looked). Maybe there will be a new tier of MSDN for non-developer enterprise use cases, or maybe we will have to get unlimited eval use sw built into our EA...
I would have no problem if they introduced a new tier of MSDN for non-dev types and would be comfortable even if they hiked the price above £500.
My grievance is that their change of approach ignores what people (us) need to use test and eval software for, and therefore £5000 for current MSDN is way too steep and 90-180 day eval software is not good enough.
Again, I would say to MS that they should remove the client OS and office licenses or just allow 1 or 2 and put the price up to put off 'pirates'.
If I was developing and selling software I'd be happy to pay £5k for MSDN.
My grievance is that their change of approach ignores what people (us) need to use test and eval software for, and therefore £5000 for current MSDN is way too steep and 90-180 day eval software is not good enough.
Again, I would say to MS that they should remove the client OS and office licenses or just allow 1 or 2 and put the price up to put off 'pirates'.
If I was developing and selling software I'd be happy to pay £5k for MSDN.
To stop people being able to pay £99 a year for free copys of every MS program would be my guess. The bubble had to burst some day
To stop people being able to pay £99 a year for free copys of every MS program would be my guess. The bubble had to burst some day
So why not just charge £500 or so to stop the people who just want a couple of copies of Windows 7/8 and Office so that it is not economical for them, but still viable for the rest of us who use it legitimately?
A famous phrase involving babies and bath water comes to mind !!!
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Action pack is still current right? About £300 a year.
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So what do those of us wanting to study Microsoft certifications do now then? Are we going to have to pay more for access to Windows Server and Exchange and so on? 
I got fed up with it after 3 years and thought to myself why should I be paying Microsoft money to give them my opinion and breakdown on software and Operating systems. I felt stiffed like everyone else about how MS managed the system. They called it Piracy prominance. For those of us that used it for legitemate reasons made us feel like monkeys. It is about time the idea was shut up completely. Any decent software company does it's development in house but I saw licenses going right left and centre. And they were not paying the premium for them.
I recently had the Windows 8 Preview programme on my system and wiped it clean. I was disgusted with 'Windows wipers' or 'Windows 8 my tablets' almost as soon as it was installed. About the only saving grace the O/S has going for it is its search engine.. The problem with that is that it also goes online instead of searching you system. Every piece of software has a bug that no one likes. This is what development and debugging is all about. Pitty Ms haven't solved theirs.
I recently had the Windows 8 Preview programme on my system and wiped it clean. I was disgusted with 'Windows wipers' or 'Windows 8 my tablets' almost as soon as it was installed. About the only saving grace the O/S has going for it is its search engine.. The problem with that is that it also goes online instead of searching you system. Every piece of software has a bug that no one likes. This is what development and debugging is all about. Pitty Ms haven't solved theirs.
So what do those of us wanting to study Microsoft certifications do now then? Are we going to have to pay more for access to Windows Server and Exchange and so on?
Study in what sense?
Technet virtual labs are good for quick tests
Otherwise if its just general study, eval should be ok..? Rebuilding environments is good for learning
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The MCSE/A certifications.Study in what sense?
Technet virtual labs are good for quick tests
Otherwise if its just general study, eval should be ok..? Rebuilding environments is good for learning
