Microsoft Starts automatically Pushing Windows 10 to all Windows 7 and 8.1 Users

I believe (and really hope) that in a business environment it won't get through WSUS, none of the domain machines I look after have even not the upgrade icon on them, so thats something as at least two of our big clients have programs that won't run on 10.
As for home it should stay an option IMO but I can see what MS are doing, they don't want the XP mess again, we are still try to get a handful of customers to update from XP but it's like banging your head against a brick wall, so I can see why MS are doing what they are doing.
 
^^ In smaller business environments they might not be running any kind of domain setup - I can see this causing some issues in that context.
 
That is true, we do have a few that just have standalone machines, some of them actually went ahead and upgraded, most are happy with it. One was left jumping after his invoicing software stopped working and the company told him he had to buy the newer version, luckily we just rolled him back to 7. Thinking about it now I might have to make some phone calls to either block this or upgrade them and see how it goes, damn it I got too much to do already.
 
I don't agree with them starting to get more forceful in pushing W10 onto users but I can see why they are doing it. Personally I am still on Windows 7 as it's what I've been used to for quite a while now. My work machine had W10 installed on it and I am slowly becoming more used to it so I might eventually switch over to Windows 10, probably before the free upgrade expires.
 
llamadal said:
Bs, absolute bs.
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Not totally BS - while Win 10 runs fine on like the newer quad core atoms I've done some netbook/laptop upgrades on older single/dual core atom/celerons with 5400rpm HDDs, etc. that don't perform that great compared to when they had 7 on them. Dunno about unusually slow but they exhibit quite a bit of slowdown at times especially if they aren't fully booted to the desktop.
 
More silly clickbait that gets certain people riled up.

It's not forced, they want people on it (for the better) but you don't have to, some people seem to have serious issue with change.

Anyway, if your having issues with performance then its most likely down to a rogue ap.

Roff, honestly mate, every post you make is negative windows 10, always has been, so with all this that you dislike about it, why do you keep on installing it?

This isn't an attack on you at all, I'm just trying to understand it.
 
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Not a good move on Microsoft's part imo. A lot of people have put off upgrading to Windows 10 for very good reasons. Taking advantage of the fact that many people leave automatic updates turned on to hijack their PCs with a new OS is not a consumer-friendly initiative.
 
llamadal said:
More silly clickbait that gets certain people riled up.

It's not forced, they want people on it (for the better) but you don't have to, some people seem to have serious issue with change.

Anyway, if your having issues with performance then its most likely down to a rogue ap.

Roff, honestly mate, every post you make is negative windows 10, always has been, so with all this that you dislike about it, why do you keep on installing it?

This isn't an attack on you at all, I'm just trying to understand it.
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If Windows 10 allowed me to setup Windows Update like previous versions, check and notify new updates. I'd be all over it but they force every update that is released including drivers. Besides... Microsoft is known for so many times for releasing botched updates, pulling them and reissuing them. I don't want to be a guinea pig. In between faffing about with screw ups because it was downloaded automatically.

At least Apple allows me to install what I want.
 
It comes down to personal choice really, is it or isn't it the right time. Windows 7 is good, 8.1 is good, so why bother right now...etc..

However saying a lot of people are put off over very good reasons for not upgrading is mainly said by those with no first hand experience of it so blurt out whatever the latest scaremongering buzzword is as an excuse, unfortunately sheep will be sheep and this gets spread around.

Sites get visits based on catchy headlines - what would you ready

"windows 10 works, not perfect but its good"

"10 reasons why windows 10 will give you cancer and allow microsoft to sell your data, kill your pets"

It's a shame that so many of these sites exist and it's a bigger shame that people actually follow this sort of stuff, i appreciate not everyone wants to spend the time to tinker and learn new things - but if you don't have first hand knowledge, or be willing to learn something - then your opinion doesn't really add any value.
 
Oh stop complaining.
Plenty of ways to stop the updates.
Sure its pretty ****** but what do you expect, they want everyone to upgrade so they can ignore everything else and not have to spend money on it.
 
If they've fixed the issue of win 10 running the hdd activity at 100% on many peoples systems I'll stick it back on my girlfriends laptop. It runs great on my desktop but her laptop its a pig. Annoyingly when I downgraded back to 7, its retained its sluggishness, it was really fast previously. (i5, 4gb ram)
 
llamadal said:
5 seconds on google solves that update issue.
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Problem is there are only clunky workarounds many of which leave you more insecure than necessary as you can't simply just check for critical updates without messing about with extra software/scripts and/or manually undoing horrid OS hacks temporarily.

Delaying updates/restarts assumes you have a magical crystal ball and know what you are going to be doing in the future :S end of the day MS has no way of being real life context aware so should never be forcing updates/reboots. The number of times I've gone to quickly fire up my Windows 10 tablet to check something then ended up turning to my phone instead as the tablet decides to launch into updates or something is getting ridiculous (ok it doesn't happen every time but its far from uncommon either).

End of the day I want to be able to boot up my OS and not quite often have to sit there for 20-30 minutes sometimes while Windows does updates - there is a reason no one liked Windows ME and its long laborious boot times :P
 
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I have had windows 10 since it was first out for preview and not once have I had to wait longer than maybe 10 seconds for it to install an update? Sure I have an SSD but so do a lot of newer PCs. In fact, if I'm honest, I boot into Windows and it'll say update installed and I hadn't even noticed so it's not a time thing.

People love to complain! Why shouldn't they force updates? If there are security flaws etc then it's in their and your interests that they get plugged.

As for "forcing" you to update....they aren't, read it properly.
 
thecremeegg said:
People love to complain! Why shouldn't they force updates? If there are security flaws etc then it's in their and your interests that they get plugged.
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The reason they should not force updates is that they quite often break things, dropping productivity by businesses, creating unnecessary work for IT bods and in the case of upgrading Windows, causing compatibility issues.

A business can overcome some of the issues with WSUS, but not all businesses are big enough for this.

llamadal said:
5 seconds on google solves that update issue.
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Most people are not going to have the know-how to go about fixing the issue here, and why should they need to?

The way Microsoft have gone about pushing Windows 10 on Windows 7+ users, whether they want it or not is wrong, even before the issue this thread is talking about. I have no issue with a notice telling everyone that they can get a free upgrade to Windows 10, there should just be an easy way to turn it off, by that I mean a tickbox saying "Please do not show this again" that everybody can do and then, nagging gone.

There are reasons a lot have not upgraded, mostly compatibility (and some people just prefer the older version of Windows). Do not throw the "security" line at us, because Windows Vista up are still supported.

Some people seem to love to defend Microsoft for everything they do. They are a large corporation and make mistakes. What do you owe them?
 
thecremeegg said:
I have had windows 10 since it was first out for preview and not once have I had to wait longer than maybe 10 seconds for it to install an update? Sure I have an SSD but so do a lot of newer PCs. In fact, if I'm honest, I boot into Windows and it'll say update installed and I hadn't even noticed so it's not a time thing.

People love to complain! Why shouldn't they force updates? If there are security flaws etc then it's in their and your interests that they get plugged.

As for "forcing" you to update....they aren't, read it properly.
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Not sure what you are missing* but there have been a number of larger updates that take quite a lot longer than 5 seconds even on a fast system - especially if you are on the insider ring. It is a little less frequent on the "slow ring" but still not ideal. Some of them are loaded the other way around as well - largely applied on shutting down with only 10 seconds or so on boot - which is great when you are trying to power off a tablet/laptop to save battery :D and then drains what you have left applying updates.

It would be different - though still not acceptable IMO - if it was just critical updates but it isn't.


* I can only assume they've been applied automatically and the system has restarted while you weren't around and so missed it has happened.
 
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