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Microsoft Unveils Windows 10 S
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Can only see this work if 10 S laptops/tablets are offered at a very low price, similar to Chromebooks. And Microsoft being more persuasive to developers porting over to their app store.
Actually Chromebooks are more tempting now due to access to the Google Play store, which is far more mature.
Actually Chromebooks are more tempting now due to access to the Google Play store, which is far more mature.
Its not though.
no it really isn't. For a start it is full windows 10 locked down, secondly the app store now has full win x86 apps in them, not just UWP like on rt, so no it is nothing like RT.
it is also far from DOA, it is designed for schools, where they need total control over the devices and comes with great mangemnt software.
It can also be upgraded for free to windows 10 pro if you buy this year, after that its $49
chromebooks don't run everything though and never can. 10s only requires a developer to submit the software to the store.
And yes it is going up against chromebook in the education sector with devices starting from $189
Yeah this crap just wont end. Microsoft has turned to profiting from data collection now, its only going to get much worse. In the good old days you bought a windows licence and that was it, now they want to keep you hooked because they can milk more money from data.
“Everything that runs on Windows 10 S is downloaded from the Windows Store,”
What on earth is the point of that? And how is that a good thing for education ffs, that would have been a major hinderance when i was in education, it cant even run google chrome hahaha. Lets face it microshaft just want a bigger cut of all the education being done using windows and all the educational software out there. They want people using their doctored app store or nothing, and now they are trying to force it on educational use too.
Are they STILL trying to doctor their app store charts? Back with windows 8 they rammed their cr-apps down peoples throats by filling the start menu with them, in windows 10 they decided to start remotely force-install candy crush and other cr-app, and now in 10s you cant do anything EXCEPT look at the bloody windows crapp store. Lmao. 
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Have you even looked at the garbage that is in the windows 10 app store which includes things that no school would want on a computer like a John-Thomas size app and limiting you to edge as a browser and bing as a search engine.
They're also trying to make it sound better until you find out that to get rid of the limitations you'll have to fork out £50 (because one pound equals one dollar like some companies believe) to get windows 10 pro.
The store needs work. Are Firefox and Chrome banned from the store?
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wow, and there was me thinking they couldn't possibly make it any worse.....
as much as lightened and stripped down w10 is an attractive prospect, i think i'm not alone in saying my version of "lightened and stripped down" is removing all the store/cortana/spyware guff and leaving us with a lightweight and fast regular old os.
besides, schools are simply giving students ipads these days.
as much as lightened and stripped down w10 is an attractive prospect, i think i'm not alone in saying my version of "lightened and stripped down" is removing all the store/cortana/spyware guff and leaving us with a lightweight and fast regular old os.
besides, schools are simply giving students ipads these days.
That's the entire point, they are losing market share to apple and even more to google in the education space, and its been shown what you use at school, there is significant retention to that platform through out life.
Whether they can make it work, depends how much money they throw at it and if they throw it in the right direction.
nothing, they can use project sentinel to make the miner changes needed(at the minimum they can convert it using MS software and just ensure that it has no malware, can be cleanly uninstalled, simple setup and provide updates and obviously any issues the coversion program throws up. Since the anniversary update uwp has been able to run x86/64 apps. There is very slow movement, towards using it, but it is glacial and ms will need to speed this process up if they have any chance. They also don't help their self, office should have been on there back last year if not before.
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I disagree. The store doesn't need work, it needs to be deleted
. 99.9% of any app store is full of apps which you're never going to install and for the Microsoft store, the percentage is even higher 99.9999% of Microsoft's store apps are pointless apps, and even the main apps everybody needs to install like email - iOS does them better for the majority of people.They knew this from the Windows Phone, which is why they had to milk their Windows userbase and FORCE all their unwanted apps on everybody's Windows 8 Desktops so they could attempt to say they're as popular as iOS and Android. And now they're doing the same with this special edition of "windows".
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I disagree about having a place - a properly working repository/store based around a user profile and group management with a properly designed abstraction layer rather than the incredibly poor implementation they have now would be very useful.
Problem is MS only asks the questions that get the response they want to hear, they only pay attention to the logged data that shows the picture they want to see - instead of building something that facilitates end user convenience they try and force through a highly idealistic model that works for no one and half works for some mainstream users.
Problem is MS only asks the questions that get the response they want to hear, they only pay attention to the logged data that shows the picture they want to see - instead of building something that facilitates end user convenience they try and force through a highly idealistic model that works for no one and half works for some mainstream users.
If companies get on board with packaging their desktop apps for the Windows Store then it's actually really good because you don't end up with a billion updaters on the devices, users aren't nagged to update, there aren't installers that all act differently and need different approaches taken to deployment etc. App stores solve all the issues of volume licensing, distribution and deployment - they just need the vendors to be on-board.
But professionals and students have their own software repositories which contains just what they need as opposed to 99.99% unnecessary garbage, and it's taken care of by the IT Administrator. Plus, the vast majority of professional/educational software is simply NOT available as a dumbed down app version. Not only that there are thousands of smaller utilities and specialist software which will NEVER be turned into a cr-app. And this is what the problem really is, they are doing it so they can make 99.9% of their junk more "in your face" because they know everybody is just installing all their applications offline/locally while never even glancing at their failure of an app store.
There's nothing wrong with group policy and good old fashioned software installation/deployment.
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A lot of professionals out there will sometimes refrain from updating their software because something gets broken. How will this work with the way updates are forced on Windows 10?