*** Microsoft Windows 11 Thoughts & Discussion Thread ***

What even is Tpm anyways?

Why is this released in any from if its about 80% of users can't upgrade, and how would they exact 99% of pc users to mess about in bios.
 
Looking forward to this! The new UI did look like it's bringing a bit of Windows 7 Aero back which I really miss. Needs more shadows behind the windows to create a better sense of depth though.
 
cu3ed said:
What even is Tpm anyways?

Why is this released in any from if its about 80% of users can't upgrade, and how would they exact 99% of pc users to mess about in bios.
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Been around for years on WIFI/Pro type Mobos but not so much on gaming ones till more recently and now is being replaced by a Bios version that works with the CPU's so newer AMD's and intel Haswell onwards but Bios needs the support.


What Is a TPM Header? A Basic Definition | Tom's Hardware (tomshardware.com)

Intel Platform Trust Technology (PTT): TPM For The Masses (onlogic.com)
 
Microsoft chat say u need TMP 2.0 enabled plus The Legacy and Compatibility Support Module (CSM) options must be disabled in the bios in order to run in secure boot and the health checker should entitled u to upgrade to windows 11

If I disabled CSM then I can't see any SSD or NVMe. Crazy
 
JohnG7 said:
"Paul Thurrott and Mary Jo Foley have BOTH said that the compatability check program to check if your PC is Windows 11 capable / ready is NOT working correctly."

https://www.elevenforum.com/

You can still install it for now without TPM and next week official Dev builds.


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Nothing ever changes with MS, delivering crap out the door for all eternity. :cry:
 
bulldog147 said:
Microsoft chat say u need TMP 2.0 enabled plus The Legacy and Compatibility Support Module (CSM) options must be disabled in the bios in order to run in secure boot and the health checker should entitled u to upgrade to windows 11
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The Health Checker is apparently busted, some have all the requirements and still fail.
 
My 5950x and Asus X570 were incompatible with the PC health checker, but once I enabled AMD fTPM it passed the checks just fine.

If this ends up being a requirement on release its going to by a nightmare for a lot of people who either don't touch the BIOS and have to enable it as it seems to be disabled by default as standard, or peoples hardware may be way more than capable of running Windows 11 but can't due to the stupid TPM 2.0 requirement.
 
Sack the whole MS team of Gen Z/Millennials pink/blue hair/tats/piercing's wokies and go back to Vista vision without the bloat/bugs. :p
 
Warning:
I disabled CSM and my monitor stopped working. Had to plug in a spare monitor to get into the BIOS and enabled CSM again.

Monitor:
ASUS TUF Gaming VG27AQ HDR Gaming Monitor - 27 Inch WQHD (2560 x 1440), IPS, 155Hz*, ELMB Sync, G-SYNC Compatible, Adaptive-sync, 1 ms (MPRT), HDR10

Spare Monitor:
Dell U2715H 27-Inch Widescreen IPS LED Monitor
 
Yeah it does change display output disabling CSM in a strange way. With CSM on my BIOS initial POST screen is all stretched as has been for years and years on all mobos I have had, it only goes to normal one Windows starts to load. With CSM turned off suddenly at POST the BIOS screen is perfectly set aspect ratio in the middle of the screen, no longer stretched.

bulldog147 said:
Microsoft chat say u need TMP 2.0 enabled plus The Legacy and Compatibility Support Module (CSM) options must be disabled in the bios in order to run in secure boot and the health checker should entitled u to upgrade to windows 11

If I disabled CSM then I can't see any SSD or NVMe. Crazy
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You may be on to something here, I turned CSM off which removed the two options to select boot mode (legacy or UEFI etc) and added a new sub menu called Secure Boot. IN here secure boot is set to not active but I can activate it by choosing "attempt secure boot". I have not done this but instead saved changes at this point and restarted. The PC just boots back into the BIOS as if it can't find any active drives so am assuming this is because no secure boot was attempted. If I do this attempt secure boot thing the SB screen will this mess anything up on my boot SSD?

Don't want to mess around :p
 
mrk said:
Yeah it does change display output disabling CSM in a strange way. With CSM on my BIOS initial POST screen is all stretched as has been for years and years on all mobos I have had, it only goes to normal one Windows starts to load. With CSM turned off suddenly at POST the BIOS screen is perfectly set aspect ratio in the middle of the screen, no longer stretched.



You may be on to something here, I turned CSM off which removed the two options to select boot mode (legacy or UEFI etc) and added a new sub menu called Secure Boot. IN here secure boot is set to not active but I can activate it by choosing "attempt secure boot". I have not done this but instead saved changes at this point and restarted. The PC just boots back into the BIOS as if it can't find any active drives so am assuming this is because no secure boot was attempted. If I do this attempt secure boot thing the SB screen will this mess anything up on my boot SSD?

Don't want to mess around :p
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You would have had to installed Win 10 under UEFI (UEFI formatted USB stick) with Secure Boot enabled and would have a Secure Boot KEY aka PK to back up.

You would then seen your SSD twice, once normal name and second with UEFI added to the name.
 
JohnG7 said:
You would have had to installed Win 10 under UEFI with secure boot enabled and would have a Secure boot KEY (KTT or KPP I think) to back up.

You would then seen your SSD twice, once normal name and second with UEFI added to the name.
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This makes sense, which explains why I saw no keys in the store in the BIOS. Ok so that means if MS stick to their guns and force TPM 2, then everyone that does have the option to turn it on, will have to do a fresh install (of win10) which sucks really. I've never had secure boot on, always had boot set to uefi or legacy accordingly.
 
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