* Microsoft Windows 11 Thoughts & Discussion Thread *

Armageus · 25 Jun 2021 at 12:40

Believe you also need to be on the latest W10 feature update (if you aren't already)

mrk · 25 Jun 2021 at 12:45

thenewoc said:
Was your CPU on the list though?

No, although cpu generation support is a soft floor so would not matter anyway. TPM and CPU generation are both soft floors that won't prevent you from installing Windows 11 according to MS.

Jimbo said:
I had to enable fTPM in my bios on my X570 Tomahawk max and convert drive from MBR to GPT and now the tool tells me it will run Windows 11. Before hand i knew it would fail as i was using older MBR and i couldnt use smart access memory. It was easy to do i'll post the how to.

Here you are...

https://www.windowscentral.com

I am just about to do this actually since my OS drive (480GB Intel Skulltrail SSD) should be GPT but as I upgraded from Windows Vista to 10, the boot record remained MBR. I want to benefit from the enhancements UEFI gives tbh and drop the legacy BIOS emulation it's currently using via CSM.

So I saw this guide which seems simple enough: https://www.windowscentral.com/how-...ios-uefi-windows-10#convert_mbr_gpt_windows10

I just need to confirm one thing, my drive is NTFS formatted which is fine, so I will follow this guide and do it via booting into the command prompt mode. I then need to go into the BIOS and disable CSM which will allow the newly converted EFI boot record to be seen and Windows can then boot.

Assuming I have not missed anything there?

Quartz · 25 Jun 2021 at 12:46

My Asus B560M-Plus motherboard doesn't seem to support TPM so it seems I don't need to be concerned about Windows 11 for the moment.

But I thought that more modern CPUs implemented TPM internally.

bulldog147 · 25 Jun 2021 at 12:47

Kainz said:
My i7 2600k isn't even on the Windows 10 list lol

Same as my old Intel i7 2700K isn't on the list Windows 11 (somedays someone will find a work around it to force it install with no issues)

watercooledman · 25 Jun 2021 at 12:48

bulldog147 said:
Same as my old Intel i7 2700K isn't on the list Windows 11 (somedays someone will find a work around it to force it install with no issues)

work around already done

bulldog147 · 25 Jun 2021 at 12:53

Jimbo said:
I had to enable fTPM in my bios on my X570 Tomahawk max and convert drive from MBR to GPT and now the tool tells me it will run Windows 11. Before hand i knew it would fail as i was using older MBR and i couldnt use smart access memory. It was easy to do i'll post the how to.

Here you are...

https://www.windowscentral.com

convert drive from MBR to GPT could be data loss! BE CAREFUL!

bulldog147 · 25 Jun 2021 at 12:53

watercooledman said:
work around already done

Where the source for this?

watercooledman · 25 Jun 2021 at 12:56

bulldog147 said:
Where the source for this?

i have to be careful here but its all over youtube.

watercooledman · 25 Jun 2021 at 12:56

bulldog147 said:
convert drive from MBR to GPT could be data loss! BE CAREFUL!

yes do not do this

Jimbo · 25 Jun 2021 at 12:58

mrk said:
No, although cpu generation support is a soft floor so would not matter anyway. TPM and CPU generation are both soft floors that won't prevent you from installing Windows 11 according to MS.

I am just about to do this actually since my OS drive (480GB Intel Skulltrail SSD) should be GPT but as I upgraded from Windows Vista to 10, the boot record remained MBR. I want to benefit from the enhancements UEFI gives tbh and drop the legacy BIOS emulation it's currently using via CSM.

So I saw this guide which seems simple enough: https://www.windowscentral.com/how-...ios-uefi-windows-10#convert_mbr_gpt_windows10

I just need to confirm one thing, my drive is NTFS formatted which is fine, so I will follow this guide and do it via booting into the command prompt mode. I then need to go into the BIOS and disable CSM which will allow the newly converted EFI boot record to be seen and Windows can then boot.

Assuming I have not missed anything there?

Yes that's the guide I used and posted. It worked flawlessly for me. No horror stories of data loss. Did have to 're enter bios and select uefi saved exit and worked. 're ran tool and got congratulations windows 11 will work on this pc.

DD_Crash · 25 Jun 2021 at 12:59

What would be the advantage of Win 11 besides "oh shiny" ?

Jimbo · 25 Jun 2021 at 13:00

watercooledman said:
yes do not do this

No thats not the case. I incurred no data loss at all. If your using a legacy boot method then you'll get this error message. If you don't want to follow my advice that's cool. But it works.

darael · 25 Jun 2021 at 13:11

And so the Windows 11 TPM confusion begins. 2.0? 1.2? 1.4? Who knows!

Microsoft has posted the specific requirements for the Trusted Platform Module (TPM) chip that will be needed to install Windows 11, indicating that TPM 2.0 is recommended but not a firm requirement for running the operating system.

In its announcement on Thursday, Microsoft said that a security chip, such as the TPM 2.0 chip, will be required to run Windows 11 on a PC.

However, while TPM 2.0 is ideal, that exact version is not actually required, according to Microsoft documentation on Windows 11 compatibility.

As long as a PC has at least TPM 1.2, it will meet the minimum security requirements for Windows 11, Microsoft said. TPM 1.2 is the “hard floor” for installing Windows 11, while TPM 2.0 is a “soft floor,” the company said.

“Devices that do not meet the hard floor cannot be upgraded to Windows 11, and devices that meet the soft floor will receive a notification that upgrade is not advised,” Microsoft said in the documentation.

https://www.crn.com/news/applications-os/microsoft-discloses-tpm-chip-requirements-for-windows-11

BowdonUK · 25 Jun 2021 at 13:16

So if you're CPU isn't on the list, and you have no TPM socket on your motherboard then you have to upgrade your PC in the next 4 years because there will be no more updates for Windows 10 by 2025.

hyperseven · 25 Jun 2021 at 13:17

DD_Crash said:
What would be the advantage of Win 11 besides "oh shiny" ?

extra inch added to epeen but this time in girth where it matters

thenewoc · 25 Jun 2021 at 13:19

mrk said:
No, although cpu generation support is a soft floor so would not matter anyway. TPM and CPU generation are both soft floors that won't prevent you from installing Windows 11 according to MS.

I am just about to do this actually since my OS drive (480GB Intel Skulltrail SSD) should be GPT but as I upgraded from Windows Vista to 10, the boot record remained MBR. I want to benefit from the enhancements UEFI gives tbh and drop the legacy BIOS emulation it's currently using via CSM.

So I saw this guide which seems simple enough: https://www.windowscentral.com/how-...ios-uefi-windows-10#convert_mbr_gpt_windows10

I just need to confirm one thing, my drive is NTFS formatted which is fine, so I will follow this guide and do it via booting into the command prompt mode. I then need to go into the BIOS and disable CSM which will allow the newly converted EFI boot record to be seen and Windows can then boot.

Assuming I have not missed anything there?

Probably wont make any difference i already have an efi boot partition and secure boot only enabled. If it were only a soft floor for cpu and tpm then the health checker wouldn't say you can't upgrade to w11.

mrk · 25 Jun 2021 at 14:03

Well I converted MBR to GPT, took seconds and now booting up with UEFI. Slightly quicker POST but that's about it. Secure Boot is now on too. Carrying on with business as usual

LordBeggar · 25 Jun 2021 at 14:05

Windows 11 might be the next big windows update after window 7.
Hope it will be something enjoyable

JohnG7 · 25 Jun 2021 at 14:21

Someone a few pages back wondered if MS are doing this TPM fiasco for activation purposes/piracy, they said earlier on it is for Window Hello even though that works now without TPM which is only needed for Bitlocker.

Blackjack Davy · 25 Jun 2021 at 14:41

BowdonUK said:
So if you're CPU isn't on the list, and you have no TPM socket on your motherboard then you have to upgrade your PC in the next 4 years because there will be no more updates for Windows 10 by 2025.

In other words buy new hardware (and by implication a new OEM licence for Windows). All about revenue.

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