*** Microsoft Windows 11 Thoughts & Discussion Thread ***

Are they really updates when the majority cause problems?

Personally I think Windows 11 sucks and their staff are equal to the school kids leaving school and getting a job at McDonald's.

The continual bugs and update problems simply scream incompetence.

Sadly that's how the majority of big companies operate in this day and age. Despite the claims lies and promises.

Really need to get savings for another NVMe and do that dual boot Linux and see if I can live without Windows.
I couldn't agree more ,Id totally have switched to Bazzite if only i could play online with games on it...unfortunately these AAA game studios really have zero interest in making their games compatible with Linux, Especially when it comes to games that have anti-cheats.

with that said though there's is more and more people switching to Linux now, So maybe things could change in the future.
 
I couldn't agree more ,Id totally have switched to Bazzite if only i could play online with games on it...unfortunately these AAA game studios really have zero interest in making their games compatible with Linux, Especially when it comes to games that have anti-cheats.

with that said though there's is more and more people switching to Linux now, So maybe things could change in the future.
I did try Bazzite for awhile but then went back to Windows as there was certain games I could not play (Like the new battlefield 6) as they do not support Linux.

What browser do you use on Bazzite? I had issues with Chrome when I was testing it as it was using the dev version from their store.
 
I did try Bazzite for awhile but then went back to Windows as there was certain games I could not play (Like the new battlefield 6) as they do not support Linux.

What browser do you use on Bazzite? I had issues with Chrome when I was testing it as it was using the dev version from their store.
Ive never actually given Bazzite a whirl, But from just watching videos on it i can tell i could absolutely switch to it if it supported online games with Anticheats.

Rust & BF6 is my main go to games, Both which don't work on linux :cry:
 
Ive never actually given Bazzite a whirl, But from just watching videos on it i can tell i could absolutely switch to it if it supported online games with Anticheats.

Rust & BF6 is my main go to games, Both which don't work on linux :cry:
Yeah, this was my main reason for switching back to Windows.

I wish the anti cheat worked on Linux as I would have stayed on Bazzite otherwise.
 
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Sounds like they are just moving things around Windows update wise though rather than making fundamental improvements and no commitments to doing something useful with the Start Menu.
 
For whatever it is worth:


Sounds like they are just moving things around Windows update wise though rather than making fundamental improvements and no commitments to doing something useful with the Start Menu.
All sounds good, but will believe it when we see it.
 
It's the little things I hate about Windows 11. Like how it seems to group the files in every single folder, you choose to ungroup it and it groups the folder again when you next open it. Or interfering with Notepad and trying to make it something it isn't - just bring back Wordpad and the classic notepad (which actually still exists on your current install if you hunt for it). And give users a choice of if they want to use a dumbed down right-click menu, or the classic one which actually gets things done.

For whatever it is worth:

They just refuse to give up integrating AI everywhere possible. :(
Integrating AI where it’s most meaningful, with craft and focus: You will see us be more intentional about how and where Copilot integrates across Windows, focusing on experiences that are genuinely useful and well‑crafted. As part of this, we are reducing unnecessary Copilot entry points, starting with apps like Snipping Tool, Photos, Widgets and Notepad.
 
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I'm not bothered by AI features personally - as long as I have full control over them, they aren't sitting there doing stuff in the background and especially not transmitting anything to MS without my express permission.
 
I'm not bothered by AI features personally - as long as I have full control over them, they aren't sitting there doing stuff in the background and especially not transmitting anything to MS without my express permission.

How do you monitor that it isn't?
 
Anything reported back would have to utilise your internet connection.

Sure. But how do you monitor it? Which program? Or something like a piehole?

Or you just don't use Internet on your computers? :p
 
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Just because there are some people at MS that don't like it either, is it up to them to actually remove it?

They say they are evolving Windows, but, are they really, its almost like it wants to be devolved into something a bit more like Windows XP/7 before all of the making things worse was in your face trying to push 'features' and 'service' that nobody asked for...
 
People may like to 'regress' to Windows 7 because in those days, it just sat as the OS upon which you did you work via the applications you chose to install and run. It did its job without too much intrusion.

Sure, the underlying kernel functions and hardware is vastly moved on, but I would say that for those who want to get work done efficiently, any intrusion is an impact on the work. I was at something the other day talking about mobile phones and children, and they put forward that even a 'ding' sound played on a phone in a bag is enough to take a child out of their focus of learning, and that it can take 10+ minutes to get back to their original level of focus. The same can could apply to the work environment. Fair enough if its a phone ... but when it's the OS stepping in and intruding, that to me is worse.

I also think that OS's dont really need to evolve that much and that they should a base platform onto which to add what you want to do in a modular fashion, and its that additional stuff which should evolve.
 
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Personally I think Windows 11 sucks and their staff are equal to the school kids leaving school and getting a job at McDonald's.
It's actually quite a different issue to that, Windows development is heavily based on anonymous usage feedback collected about how users use the OS. Simply put they put effort into things people use and not into things they don't (CoPilot being the exception to the rule).

But the big drawback to this is that the people who disable the telemetry via 3rd party software or reg edits are also some of the ones most likely to be using a niche feature/setting, and then it looks to the devs like nobody is using it so they either stop development or just remove it, then people rage.

This is the reason that they removed the Windows XP/Vista style "small taskbar" option in 11, a legacy compatibility feature introduced in Windows 7 to make it look more like previous Windows versions. Their data gathered from Windows 10 users told them hardly anyone was using it, but in reality there were a lot of "techies" still enabling the option who were also denying Microsoft the ability to know that, as a result it got removed and those using it cried havoc.

This is also why Microsoft are so reluctant to put serious dev effort into the Start Menu, because they know that the vast majority of users never touch it and it's been this way for years.


Has there been a windows feature update in the last 2 years that brought anything good to the computer? It’s only ever unwanted bloat, or trash-level appearance changes.
It's even funnier than that.

If you exclude Windows 8/10 compatible apps that are hard coded to only install on Widows 11. Then the only advantage 11 has over 10 is that users who want their Start button in the middle of the screen can do it without 3rd part apps. That's it. Everything else about 11 is basically the same or worse.
 
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Recently after adding a 2.5gb NIC onto my mobo, windows starts throwing a fit in regards to activation. It doesn't want to have it. Not sure if I ever tied my key to my MS account as i never really log in and only use local account.

My motherboard has always remembered my key and i never have needed to type it in for many years.

Anyway to sort this out? If not worth grabbing a cheap key from somewhere like groupon?
 
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Anyway to sort this out? If not worth grabbing a cheap key from somewhere like groupon?
Whilst it will no doubt activate, it's about as legit as a GitHub activation script :)

Unless you buy direct from Microsoft or from a trusted retailer at the full price, then the keys are grey market and no more legal than a bloke with a hook for an arm and a suspicious looking parrot
 
Whilst it will no doubt activate, it's about as legit as a GitHub activation script :)

Unless you buy direct from Microsoft or from a trusted retailer at the full price, then the keys are grey market and no more legal than a bloke with a hook for an arm and a suspicious looking parrot

Yeah, they basically work until eventually revoked. Sometimes you get lucky and they work for a long time.

I ain't paying full price though. Pretty sure i had a retail key before. But that was like from maybe even before windows 10. It just kept working.
 
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