Microsoft Windows Vista Ultimate

DJSKYLINE said:
Also when i build the new PC, Can i first install XP on one HDD then vista on the other. Then in the bios could i select which HDD is primary so that OS could start?
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Yes you can, thats how I have my setup with XP and V U, rather than installing both together, I just unplugged the XP drive and installed vista on the new 1, put both back in, and change it that way, less hassle if the boot menu goes **** up. Will keep XP untill drivers get sorted for VU :)
Firewall my router does that, anti virus, it's down to preference, nod32 etc, though I use Sophos.

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As to the other guy about macs, just about any software you care to mention bar office and the odd ap and game here or there.
Tell me what you can do on a Mac that you cant on a PC, and Vice Versa.
The list I know will be slightly 1 sided.

Games being the reason most users prefer pc's to mac.
And who cares if vista has copied the look of a mac??
Theres only so many ways a pointer, menu, interface can look on a flat panel screen, so it's hardly surprising they may look similiar.
And if you think it's only the glass effect that vista delivers, then I suggest you research some proper information, and read it, rather than just looking at the screenshots.
 
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Fstop11 said:
Its unstable, an hour ago it just locked up under no load.
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correction

your system is unstable. Mine is not. I have never had vista crash on me yet. Neither did i ever get XP crash on me in its latter days

im not trying to insult your system or anything. All i'm saying is your scoffing at people for changing, then citing your systems instability as a reason not to upgrade.

Unless theres some very specific bug with raw files, in which case vista is stable, it just has a bug with raw files. The 2 are very different things ..
 
Mista.Gee said:
I've decided to get Microsoft Window Vista Ultimate, What's the best compatible Anti-Virus Available for Vista. A friend of mine tried to install Symantic Nortons Anti-Virus 2007 and it wouldn't install due to an incompatability issue.
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Despite everything I've read on here about Norton, I've kept mine (for the time being). There is a Vista-compatible 2007 version available on Symantec's website, available free to valid subscribers.
 
MrLOL said:
correction

your system is unstable. Mine is not. I have never had vista crash on me yet. Neither did i ever get XP crash on me in its latter days

im not trying to insult your system or anything. All i'm saying is your scoffing at people for changing, then citing your systems instability as a reason not to upgrade.

Unless theres some very specific bug with raw files, in which case vista is stable, it just has a bug with raw files. The 2 are very different things ..
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My system has never crashed once under XP and it has been given a tuff beating with 100s of gigs of data passing in and out of it day after day. Your not insulting me but I am futher correcting you by telling you Vista is unstable in that regard wether it is down to a component or not, If that component caused no error previously but does now that in basic laymans terms equals that Vista is not fully stable.
 
Installed it late last night took about 10 mins for a clean and complete install of Vista which I was impressed, seems very stable and fast tried Test Drive Unlimited no problems in the gaming department by the looks which i'm happy about.

Overall very impressed and happy downloaded all of the updates without a problem and seems to be running a treat at the moment.
 
Fstop11 said:
now that in basic laymans terms equals that Vista is not fully stable.
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no it doesnt.

if vista was "unstable" it would crash at other things other than just you doing work on a lot of RAW files. If its only crashing when you're doing work on RAW files, then there is a specific bug that causes it to crash.

an OS can be stable, but still crash over certain bugs, the two are different things.
 
MrLOL said:
no it doesnt.

if vista was "unstable" it would crash at other things other than just you doing work on a lot of RAW files. If its only crashing when you're doing work on RAW files, then there is a specific bug that causes it to crash.

an OS can be stable, but still crash over certain bugs, the two are different things.
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Again, You seem to of missed my post before about it crashed when it was doing nothng.

No apps were running and the thing locked up with a screaming noise. Im sorry but that is unstable. I dont care if it doesnt crash on anyone elses pc. Ive been a long term computer user and I know enough to make a correct assumption that it is far from a finished product..

Hell XP is still a bloody unfinished product.
 
I remember when Users were complaining that WinXP Home didn't support Ntworking as well as XP Pro, but as soon as SP1 and SP2 were released it was hard to tell the 2 apart but from the price tag and end user support from MS. I had more support from MS with XP Pro than I did with XP Home.
My guess is the same will happen here. Home Basic users will most probably get left for the dust whereas the Ultimate and Premium users will get better Hard and software compatibility.
There are already programs for Premium on the way to bring the software in line with Ultimate. As soon as these are released you will get the release owindows Server 2007 and Windows Advanced Server 2007. I see August as the release date for these to allow the next set of Drivers to bed in and the new O/S take root.
 
Fstop11 said:
I dont have to. Microsoft fail each time to deliever a finished product. The day they do will be the day my penis grows arms and legs and tells me its going on holiday.
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Send me a postcard!
 
Fstop11 said:
Again, You seem to of missed my post before about it crashed when it was doing nothng.

No apps were running and the thing locked up with a screaming noise. Im sorry but that is unstable. I dont care if it doesnt crash on anyone elses pc. Ive been a long term computer user and I know enough to make a correct assumption that it is far from a finished product..

Hell XP is still a bloody unfinished product.
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I don't understand how you can say it is an OS fault when it doesn't happen on other machines.
Can you replicate the error time and time again?
Can you go through a process whereby with a few steps you can make the OS fall over?
If so then yes - you've got yourself a bug, let MS know about it and I'm sure they would be happy.
MS are unable to test every single piece or every single combination of hardware out there - it would simply be impossible.

If however you had a random occurance that happened once and you cannot repeat how can you in any way be sure that it was the OS and not something third part driver related (most likely) or hardware (second most likely)?
 
Girdag said:
Thought so. But yeah, people upgrading are nutters. Until the first DX10 only game comes out, I have no idea why you would switch to Vista.
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!!! Breaking News !!!
Apparantly there are people out there who use their PCs for non-gaming related activities!
Who would have thought this possible?
!!! Breaking News !!!


Anyway I got Vista Home Premium to replace MCE. The improvement is very noticeable. No unexplained crashes, random removal of channels or scheduled recordings.
Everything runs slick as snot and setup was a breeze as well.

So for a HTPC, Vista is currently better, faster and more reliable for me.
 
Perplexed said:
!!! Breaking News !!!
Apparantly there are people out there who use their PCs for non-gaming related activities!
Who would have thought this possible?
!!! Breaking News !!!
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True, but I can't see Vista offering anything great for non-gamers. Certainly not much beyond XP, and you get the joys of finding whether all your favourite programs/hardware still works. You seem to have been lucky, but most people won't want to wager £60-£70 on something that may be less stable than their current OS. If you've got XP, and it works fine, there's no real reason for a non-gamer to switch, and as Vista's first real 'exclusive' appears to be DirectX 10, I think it's the gamers who'll migrate first.
 
Does anyone know where there is a list/thread of programs that work with vista. I am currently running xp pro on one hd and vista ultimate on another. I am using Nod32 which seems to work fine on vista and Ccleaner :)
 
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