1. No way would the council approve that.
2. If someone is injured by your electric cable then you will be sued into oblivion.
Please don't try this.
Mid-Terraced house EV charging options
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2. If someone is injured by your electric cable then you will be sued into oblivion.
Please don't try this.
The architecture needs to change entirely to something greener and future proof, instead of just cheap brick boxes. There is no innovation at all.
A lot of these new builds are probably going to have to be torn down in 30-40 years. Not great longevity for a house.
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Soldato
We bought a sixties house with EV charging, a front garden, a drive and sold the EV charger back to the previous house owner because we did not see a use in our lifetimes for one.
The next owner can of course buy one again
The next owner can of course buy one again
Maybe the thing that needs to change is the EVs are the solution for all so we'll remove the alternatives approach from the government.
As for building all houses with south facing rooves... Not sure how that would pan out. I picture some dystopian future where we all go home from our government issued work placements to our gable ended utopia with all the houses perfectly aligned in rows to sit with the family and consume our state issued nutrient capsule
This is an old thread, and that's what we did in. Bought a Corolla Estate hybrid, I was a bit wary of there being more to go wrong on a hybrid / new tech teething problems, but someone rightly pointed out that Toyota have been making hybrid engines for like 20 years so it's pretty refined now.
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have you seen the houses they've built south side of the A47 by the Norwich Showground - they've chucked a couple of panels on the north side of the roofMaybe the thing that needs to change is the EVs are the solution for all so we'll remove the alternatives approach from the government.
As for building all houses with south facing rooves... Not sure how that would pan out. I picture some dystopian future where we all go home from our government issued work placements to our gable ended utopia with all the houses perfectly aligned in rows to sit with the family and consume our state issued nutrient capsule
- ie: https://maps.app.goo.gl/LoAbPD2DXwmL1t4s6
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I'd be surprised if thats legal unless its his own land. My stepfather had power installed to the garage but it had to be paid for with electric company who dug up the car park and made good after and presumably sorted out the legalities
Contractors do that all the time but its regarded as a temporary solution rather than a permanent fixture and they will have indemnity insurance in the event of some kind of accident/claim, do they?If outside every terraced house was one of these, imagine how bad of a situation it is for anything using wheels or people running. The odd one or two, you can deal with, but it is a slipper slope to ruining pavements. Worse when it is dark.
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whoops I did not see the age of the thread! Not sure how a thread over a year old was top of the list but glad you got sorted in the end.
That doesn't surprise me. They are probably the 'affordable' housing tick box properties so they couldn't care less.have you seen the houses they've built south side of the A47 by the Norwich Showground - they've chucked a couple of panels on the north side of the roof
Some of the new housing around here is shocking. Houses plonked on top of each other at all angles. To be fair that seems to be a UK wide approach by the big name builders.
Our place isn't ideal from a plot point of view but at least we have some space that doesn't feel like the chimpanzee enclosure at the zoo.
With a hip roof ours isn't suited for current solar panels. I do hope that at some point they manage to create a solution that works on a triangular facet of a roof without A) looking rubbish and B) only ending up with a few panels and a load of wasted space.
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Yep temporary and I'd think they would need some sort of risk assessment and permit to do it. Also warning signs. You can't just go and do it and expect nothing to happen if the council notice.
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Soldato
The Electrical Contractors Association recently issued a technical note on possible hazards caused by different earth bonding between neighbouring on street private EV charging installations.
have you seen the houses they've built south side of the A47 by the Norwich Showground - they've chucked a couple of panels on the north side of the roof
Solar panels on a north roof can be cost effective with current efficiencies. They don’t need direct sunlight to work. Shading is far less of an issue on modern panels now too.
Fitting bi-facial panels (solar cells on the front and back) is also gaining a lot of traction now also, even on black/grey roofs.
Now I’m not saying those are not a token 2 panels to tick a box on an EPC but putting panels on a north facing roof isn’t necessarily stupid anymore.
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Thanks for stating the obvious... good value add
Like I said installing on a north facing roof can be cost effective in the U.K.
Whether you do it or not is up to you and how you spend your money but that’s your decision and doesn’t change their performance.
Suspended
Why the obsession with a narrow peak of power? Spread is good.
Soldato
It's cheap, and you should fill you roof regardless of facing with as many panels as you can afford, as the cost isn't in the panels, but the installation, certification, and inversion equipment. A 430w panel is now ~£60+VAT (you pay no VAT on solar or battery installs), so to add say 8 panels to a North facing roof if you are already doing the South, would be £480, plus the mounting equipment, cabling and uplifting the inverter a notch, so maybe and £1k, given you are likely spending £6-8k in the first place, you'd be a fool not to.
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need to do what the Germans are doing - providing the kids aren't playing football in the back garden - you put solar panels in as fence panels - every little counts,
whilst the chinese are providing panels.
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whilst the chinese are providing panels.
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Global glut turns solar panels into garden fencing option
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In fairness to the developer, if I was buying one of those houses and it had to have a token 2 panel system on it, I'd rather they put it on the north roof so I could install a proper system on the south roof. That's particularly the case when they are installing in roof systems as they would add a lot of cost to remove and install a 'proper' system.
The MCS payback calculations are pretty flawed these days as they don't take account of time of use tariffs where you can charge the battery overnight or things like electric heat and cars.
What are you expecting on your RoI? Almost everyone I have spoken to have said theirs have actually paid off in under 8 years, some are as low as 5 almost regardless of when they had them installed.
The MCS payback calculations are pretty flawed these days as they don't take account of time of use tariffs where you can charge the battery overnight or things like electric heat and cars.