Minimum upgrades needed for Helldivers 2 1440p

[Tefal]

Hey so I ended up going with the steam deck for my traveling needs and since I'm not bothering with a laptop that frees up funds to upgrade the pc, really enjoying heldivers 2 but 20-30fps on low settings is killing me

Asus PG278Q ROG Swift 27" G-Sync 144Hz Gaming Widescreen LED Slim Bezel Monitor - BlackRed


2 x Gigabyte GeForce GTX 980 WindForce 4096MB GDDR5 PCI-Express Graphics Card sli


Gigabyte Z97X-Gaming G1-Wifi BK Intel Z97 (Socket 1150) DDR3 ATX Motherboard


Intel Core i7-4790K 4.00GHz (Devil's Canyon) Socket LGA1150 Processor - Retail


Crucial BX100 500GB SSD SATA 6Gbps 7mm Solid State Drive (CT500BX100SSD1)

Kingston HyperX Beast 16GB (2x8GB) PC3-19200C11 2400MHz Dual Channel Kit (HX324C11T3K216)
Bequiet dark power pro psu

Are the main components can I get away with just dropping in say a 16gb 4060ti like this one?

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If I could spend around 500 that would be ideal I'm not sure with the move and cpu being so old if they all work happily with new stuff.

Really out of the loop with amd vs nvida and all thier proprietary techs the Asus monitor is gsync so guessing nvida is better for me? Just looking for the least hassle option when it comes to getting stuff to work too, I remember amd always used to have issues with drivers don't know if that's a thing now?

But I have no brand loyalty.

 

[Tetras]

Are the main components can I get away with just dropping in say a 16gb 4060ti like this one?

I normally rely on performance reviews to guess, but unfortunately this is the best I could find:

Helldivers 2 delivers a solid, smooth experience on both PS5 and PC

Helldivers 2 is one of the most refreshing - and straightforward - multiplayer games I've played in a while. It's a thi…

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It does have a kind of useful write up though, in terms of what to expect.

Unfortunately, the unexciting visual settings do mean that the upgrades over PS5 aren't as large as you might expect. There's little difference between the PC at max settings at 4K and the PS5 in its quality mode, absent some slightly higher resolution shadows and a bit of a cleaner image. It still doesn't provide a pristine image though and aliasing remains a significant problem. On a high-end system using a Ryzen 7 7800X3D with RTX 4090, we're typically looking at frame-rates in the 90s with settings fully maxed out at 4K resolution. That's solid performance, but you'd probably want to engage some amount of resolution scaling if playing on a high refresh rate display. Normally,toggling on DLSS would be a no-brainer, but of course temporal upscalers aren't supported in this game at the moment.

On a more mid-range PC (we looked at a Ryzen 5 3600 with RTX 2070 Super), we get decent enough performance, as long as we're willing to take a settings hit and move down to 1080p resolution on medium settings. Here, we're typically just above 60fps, and while this isn't enough to achieve super high frame-rates at a decent resolution, it's certainly capable of providing a good experience. Stuttering in-game isn't an option, but this seems to happen when launching into a match, but from there on out, gameplay is refreshingly smooth.

The 4790K is the minimum CPU spec on Steam, which isn't a great sign, but it seems to be alright here:

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[Tefal]

If I could get a stutter free 40-60fps that would be more than enough for me. Seems like a 4060ti would be a lot better than a 2070 and his cpu doesn't seem to be the bottle neck there?

Is there a better option than the 4060ti in the ~500 price range?

 

[tamzzy]

Is there a better option than the 4060ti in the ~500 price range?

7900GRE, same performance class as the 4070/4070 super

 

[sx_turbo]

As tamzzy said, AMD 7900gre

The 4060 is terrible value for money.

 

[Tefal]

7900GRE, same performance class as the 4070/4070 super

As tamzzy said, AMD 7900gre

The 4060 is terrible value for money.

Great thanks, looking on ocuk and looking at some bench marks there's some B grade 7900 xt 20gb gor 600£ vs the gre for 509£

Looking at reviews there's about 25-30% better performance on the xt (why are there 3 versions of the 7900?) But at 600 quid i could get a 4070 super, which seems to perform worse untill Ray tracing is used where the 4070 super seems to get 30-60% more?

Is raytracing going to be the more future proof thing?

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But then again I don't think etc helldivers or bg3/darktide use Ray tracing do is it all academic?

 

[Rroff]

With almost max settings (the game seems to see it as high/custom), 1440p, Helldivers 2 ran at 60-100FPS on my 3070FE, there isn't a huge visual variation between around medium settings or so through to ultra though but overall I'd say for 1440p in the game and keeping things looking nice you don't really want to step back below a 3060ti or whatever the equivalent 4000 series is.

EDIT: I'd also say with a CPU that old you'll see very little gains beyond something like a 4060Ti maybe not even that - I was using a CPU of that era but 6 core / 12 thread with a decent overclock on it and not quite maxing out my 3070FE. Some modern games really choke now on less than 6 core / 12 thread CPUs and unfortunately I don't believe there is one for that socket.

 

[Tefal]

With almost max settings (the game seems to see it as high/custom), 1440p, Helldivers 2 ran at 60-100FPS on my 3070FE, there isn't a huge visual variation between around medium settings or so through to ultra though but overall I'd say for 1440p in the game and keeping things looking nice you don't really want to step back below a 3060ti or whatever the equivalent 4000 series is.

EDIT: I'd also say with a CPU that old you'll see very little gains beyond something like a 4060Ti maybe not even that - I was using a CPU of that era but 6 core / 12 thread with a decent overclock on it and not quite maxing out my 3070FE. Some modern games really choke now on less than 6 core / 12 thread CPUs and unfortunately I don't believe there is one for that socket.

Oh wow so multi threading finaly did catch on? I remember when I built the pc nearly every game still just seemed to use 1-2 cores max and everything else sat on 0 utilisation.

 

[Rroff]

Oh wow so multi threading finaly did catch on? I remember when I built the pc nearly every game still just seemed to use 1-2 cores max and everything else sat on 0 utilisation.

Some games do - Helldivers 2 will happily load up all 28 threads on my 14700K - though 22 cores are only half loaded and only one core sits at around 70-80% use.

 

[tamzzy]

Is raytracing going to be the more future proof thing?

depends.

*personally* i think raytracing is a gimmick...others may disagree though

besides ray-tracing, nvidia is more power efficient, has cuda and nvenc encoding
if you use cuda for work, or streaming encoding (nvenc) then nvidia is obvs the better choice

power efficiency could be a consideration if you use the computer for long periods or are keeping the card for a fair few years, in which case, you may then break even with the purchase price vs electricity bills, but you will have to use the card for about 5000 hours beforehand

 

[jigger]

Oh wow so multi threading finaly did catch on? I remember when I built the pc nearly every game still just seemed to use 1-2 cores max and everything else sat on 0 utilisation.

In Linux generally yeah, P cores and E cores are really well leveraged. Windows not so much.

 

[MCFC_ANDY]

did someone mention 4060ti

biggest skank since the gtx 970 3.5gb

 

[jigger]

An RDNA based something will allow a lot more performance than anything Nvidia based in your system.

It’s a bit of hard choice with that system. On one hand you ideally want something with 16gb of vram for that resolution, but that looks like a 7800XT and even with AMD you’ll likely not see the full performance.

 

[Tefal]

An RDNA based something will allow a lot more performance than anything Nvidia based in your system.

It’s a bit of hard choice with that system. On one hand you ideally want something with 16gb of vram for that resolution, but that looks like a 7800XT and even with AMD you’ll likely not see the full performance.

Crazy how that was a fine system to run that monitor back in the day (or maybe I just used to use 1080p on it and have forgotten.
Ah **** I changed tabs and it's deleted the rest of my post.

To avoid retyping everything

My basket at OcUK:

• 1 x B Grade Sapphire Radeon RX 7900 XT Pulse 20GB GDDR6 PCI-Express Graphics Card (SKU: BG-16G-SP) = £600.00
• 1 x B Grade Sapphire Radeon RX 7900 XT Nitro+ Vapor-X 20GB GDDR6 PCI-Express Graphics Card (SKU: BG-16C-SP) = £600.00
• 1 x B Grade Sapphire Radeon RX 7900 XT Gaming 20GB GDDR6 PCI-Express Graphics Card (SKU: BG-16A-SP) = £600.00

^ is there much in the way difference between these? As thier rrp seems to be wildly different but the Nitro plus one with the middle range rrp seems to have higher numbers

Would they work with this psu

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Rest of the post was, I'm not too sure if my enthusiasm for gaming will stick so was hoping just to do the Card, otherwise would taking the basic build from phat momma hoe's thread (lol) be the best route to take

Asus TUF Gaming B650-Plus
AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D
32gb ram

Not sure if my old thermalright 120 ultra extreme could be used with a new bracket as the amd cpus look huge these days, and guessing the cable specs for the psu have moved on at that point too?

I have got a 1tb 980 Samsung m2 ssd that I upgraded my laptop with so I'd probbaly swap that back to its old 512gb one and use that.

What do you think get the 7900xt now (if it's compatible) see if in still enthusiastic in a few months if so do everything else?

 

[jigger]

The Nitro+ is a really nice card and at £600 is a decent price.

 

[Tefal]

The Nitro+ is a really nice card and at £600 is a decent price.

Good lord he's a chonky boy!

Even the fan should is die cast metal.

Just got it set up, 50-60 fps on hd2 for everything ultra and native res, 90-110 fps for "high" preset.

30fps pretty solid using the ultra supersampling to render above 1440p good god that's crisp doing one set of super sampling gives 35-40ish fps stable and looks still amazing. Will have to test that feature out in the older games i play.


Hopwfuly this dx12 workgraphs update will help take the load of the old cpu too if it isn't already out.

All in all the cheap fun game I got for 20 quid on sale has cost me £620 10/10 would recommend.

 

[Webster]

Good lord he's a chonky boy!

Even the fan should is die cast metal.

Just got it set up, 50-60 fps on hd2 for everything ultra and native res, 90-110 fps for "high" preset.

30fps pretty solid using the ultra supersampling to render above 1440p good god that's crisp doing one set of super sampling gives 35-40ish fps stable and looks still amazing. Will have to test that feature out in the older games i play.


Hopwfuly this dx12 workgraphs update will help take the load of the old cpu too if it isn't already out.

All in all the cheap fun game I got for 20 quid on sale has cost me £620 10/10 would recommend.