Miss, Ms or Mrs

Gaspode said:
ahhh - but Dr is genderless :)

as for master - I hope no one in this century uses that old terminology. :eek:
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My bank does, so does the L&D hospital (no idea why though, unless their Consultants don't like calling us Mr;))
 
Unless it turns out that most women are particularly attached to the Miss/Mrs scheme (and I know that some are, particularly older ladies) then I'd be in favour of scrapping it and calling everyone 'Ms'.

The titles Miss and Mrs aren't sexist in themselves, but they are products of a society that was extremely sexist, and if we're seriously in favour of gender equality then we should scrap them. There's no need at all to be able to tell a woman's marital status from her name. I'm sure that it doesn't bother most people, but if they're as apathetic as they claim then they shouldn't have any problems with making the change.
 
As far as I am aware, Master is for boys under 16.
I can't stand the whole Ms thing, it's just pointless and pretentious. As for not giving away marital status, most people I have come across who use it, and I have a customer facing job, are either divorced (can see Mrs previously listed on their records) or are old.
Even if someone has been divorced, I see no reason to use such a stupid title. Miss was obviously good enough before they were married.
EDIT: I would never refer to someone as Ms if there is no title given. I would either leave it blank, or simply as them.
 
Nismo said:
Miss is for unmarried women.
Mrs is for married women.
Ms is for 'unknowns' and any woman who wishes to use it.

Thats right I think?
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I think so. I personally think Ms is so pretentious it's funny.
 
Ms is used by women who wish their status to be with-held.
If you dont know what their title should be then use none as a blanket policy.
(Officially divorced/widowed women are still Mrs. unless they retake their maiden name)
 
I dislike Ms and always go by Miss. If they don't know if I am married or not I would prefer they just used my name without the title. If they decide to ever bin the Mrs/Miss i would prefer they avoid Ms... it's just sounds... :/
 
well to me, Miss screams 'I'm not taken' or 'I'm trying to sound better than 'spinster' and Mrs screams 'I've bagged myself a bloke!'
I've been Ms for many years and I don't think it sounds weird or strange at all. I can't believe people have such strong opinions on what is essentially a personal choice. I'm probably one of the least pretentious people you could ever meet, neither am I a bitter divorcee or a lesbian. So sort yourselves out and start living in the 21st century and stop pigeon-holing people by they way they choose to label themselves. :rolleyes:
 
kitten_caboodle said:
well to me, Miss screams 'I'm not taken' or 'I'm trying to sound better than 'spinster' and Mrs screams 'I've bagged myself a bloke!'
I've been Ms for many years and I don't think it sounds weird or strange at all. I can't believe people have such strong opinions on what is essentially a personal choice. I'm probably one of the least pretentious people you could ever meet, neither am I a bitter divorcee or a lesbian. So sort yourselves out and start living in the 21st century and stop pigeon-holing people by they way they choose to label themselves. :rolleyes:
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Can I call you Mr? :p
 
kitten_caboodle said:
well to me, Miss screams 'I'm not taken' or 'I'm trying to sound better than 'spinster' and Mrs screams 'I've bagged myself a bloke!'
...stop pigeon-holing people by they way they choose to label themselves. :rolleyes:
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hmmmm - yeah that's good advice there.

i hate 'Ms'
to go with your descriptions, it sounds like 'i can't hang on to a bloke' or I'm trying to sound better than 'spinster'
(no offence)
i am a Miss, when i get married i will be a Mrs - there is no in between
'ms = i don't want to be judged on my marital status'
why do we need a third option - unless it's for a divorced woman who chooses to keep her married surname?

so would you be in favour of dropping titles all together?
J Smith could be man/woman/mineral/vegetable?
 
goldilocks said:
hmmmm - yeah that's good advice there.
i hate 'Ms'
to go with your descriptions, it sounds like 'i can't hang on to a bloke' or I'm trying to sound better than 'spinster'
(no offence)
i am a Miss, when i get married i will be a Mrs - there is no in between
'ms = i don't want to be judged on my marital status'
why do we need a third option - unless it's for a divorced woman who chooses to keep her married surname?

so would you be in favour of dropping titles all together?
J Smith could be man/woman/mineral/vegetable?
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It's not advice, it's my opinion. And it was actually meant to be a tongue in cheek reaction to people saying that anyone called Ms is a 'screaming lesbian' or 'bitter divorcee'. If we're going to insult people for using different titles, lets go the whole hog and include them all. Clearly Miss and Mrs do not justify those definitions, that was kind of the whole point.

No i don't want to drop titles altogether, I want to have the right to be called Ms without having ridiculous and idiotic judgements made about me. I don't think that's really too much to ask.

And yes - Ms = i don't want to be judged on my marital status. That is imo entirely correct. I don't understand why you're asking why we need a third option? That's the reason right there.

No offence taken btw, I don't judge people by their titles and have been happily involved for a number of years. And not with a woman :p
 
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Freefaller said:
It's not fair - women have so much choice.. I'm stuck with Mr.

Sod it, International Man of Mystery it is from now on ;)
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surely yours is M.

Even less choice :p

I think I prefer Mme. Or Madam. That'd raise a few eyebrows at the local sorting office.
 
kitten_caboodle said:
surely yours is M.

Even less choice :p

I think I prefer Mme. Or Madam. That'd raise a few eyebrows at the local sorting office.
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Nah M is my boss :(

But yes in frog I am: Mmmmmmmm :p

But in French Mademoiselle sounds lovely - rolls off the tongue beautifully... All mademoiselle's are cute and pretty too - it's almost like a name. Poetry in a mere word for marital status! :p Sometimes French does rock ;)
 
kitten_caboodle said:
I've been Ms for many years now. Ms imo is simply the opposite of Mr - doesn't allow random strangers to find out my marital status. It's irrelevant, so why should I advertise it by being a Miss or a Mrs?
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So your a Miss then.

All the married women I know prefer Mrs.
 
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