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Mite send 5870 back :(

GothicGhost

GothicGhost

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I know i have been told my cpu not very good (E6850 @3.6 and 2gb low ram 5300

But games like stalker and metro if i max settings no AA i getting low as 15-20 FPS this normal?

I am upgrading my cpu/ram in about 2 weeks but how much that going to help and my min fps as it very bad atm i thought 5870 would be a lot better then my old card 9600GT lol.
 
hate threads like this, for a start 9500gt would not be running in directx 11, and yeah you need to upgrade your pc to get the best out of
your gpu. 5870 smashes the DO NOT AVOID THE SWEAR FILTER BOY out of a 9500gt. even with the fastest single gpu out atm you will see some lowish 25-35fps in metro. i've seen 23 fps in metro with my i7 920 @ 4ghz and a heavily overclocked 5850 1920x1080 but the graphics where stunning!
 
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Well for over £300 i am not happy after seeing reviews of say stalker with min fps 40s and i am lucky to get 20.

I guess i wait and see how much the new cpu/ram helps if i keep it.

I know the 9600gt has no dx11 but atm i can't really use dx11 as the fps is to low at times in stalker COP.

I mite try reinstall drivers maybe some thing wrong there.

Cheers.
 
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I think your ram might be the bigger problem. If you are playing dx11 games with max settings then you may take a big performance hit, that could explain why you are getting lower fps than expected.
 
GothicGhost said:
Well for over £300 i am not happy after seeing reviews of say stalker with min fps 40s and i am lucky to get 20.

I guess i wait and see how much the new cpu/ram helps if i keep it.

I know the 9600gt has no dx11 but atm i can't really use dx11 as the fps is to low at times in stalker COP.

I mite try reinstall drivers maybe some thing wrong there.

Cheers.
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Seriously mate, you're pointing your finger in the wrong places, your GPU is one of the best out there and your bottleneck is almost certainly your CPU/RAM...
 
Also Metro 2033 is really really really hard on your GPU, even a 5870 struggles with DX11 max settings.

It was literally unplayable on an OC'd 5770 in DX11 mode.

Knock it down to DX10 mode, you honestly won't tell the difference in graphics and it runs smooth as hell.



But as the others have said, you really really want to get 4GB of memory, it really is the min for a good gaming rig these days.
 
GothicGhost said:
Well for over £300 i am not happy after seeing reviews of say stalker with min fps 40s and i am lucky to get 20.

I guess i wait and see how much the new cpu/ram helps if i keep it.

I know the 9600gt has no dx11 but atm i can't really use dx11 as the fps is to low at times in stalker COP.

I mite try reinstall drivers maybe some thing wrong there.

Cheers.
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Hi mate,if you've gone from an Nvidia to ATI card it may be worth doing a complete windows re-install,not always necessary but as you are having problems you should try it.

An extra 2 gig of ram will help enormously but I don't agree that your cpu is causing a major bottleneck,it's a highly clocked core2 and so should be capable of extracting some major performance from the 5870,you should be seeing much higher framerates in Stalker for instance with your system as it is.

If you are using AA make sure that you have AA filtering in the Catalyst control panel set to Box,the other settings can seriously cripple performance,especially edge detect.Also set AA mode to Multi-sampling,Adaptive and Supersampling again can cripple performance.Make sure cat AI is fully enabled too as this helps to optimise performance.

I'm sure with some system tweaking you'll get what you'd hoped for from the card without having to spend a lot more money,the extra 2 gig of ram is essential but the rest of your system is up to the job imo.
 
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Haven't we already had another thread on this and the conclusion was that it's your RAM OP?

Here's the recommended spec for Metro BTW:

Processor: Core i7 CPU
Memory: 8GB RAM or higher
 
Metro 2033 is more demanding then Crysis, couple that with an older Core based CPU and I’m surprised you’re getting those numbers to be honest.
 
It's gotta be the ram surely. I'm playing metro 2033 in dx 10 mode, 1920 x 1200 i think on high details with AAA? and it seems to play fine. Granted the fps isnt that high but its more than playable. When in game, tab out and open up task manager to see how much of your ram your using. My Win 7 system uses around 1gb at idle so if your system is similiar you wont have much left for the game.
 
Before sending the gpu back, get another 2 gigs of ram, thats most likely your issue

Your also need 64bit windows of course!

Iv seen people on utube with dualcore cpu's like yours plaing hapely with 5870's!
 
Definately the RAM being the issue here, my system uses 1.2-1.5gb whilst idle..

CPU will be fine to power that, i bet its the RAM using the page file continously to your HDD
 
Geckovich i know metro needs a lot cpu/ram then what i got but stalker should be running little better.

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Hi mate,if you've gone from an Nvidia to ATI card it may be worth doing a complete windows re-install,not always necessary but as you are having problems you should try it.

An extra 2 gig of ram will help enormously but I don't agree that your cpu is causing a major bottleneck,it's a highly clocked core2 and so should be capable of extracting some major performance from the 5870,you should be seeing much higher framerates in Stalker for instance with your system as it is.

If you are using AA make sure that you have AA filtering in the Catalyst control panel set to Box,the other settings can seriously cripple performance,especially edge detect.Also set AA mode to Multi-sampling,Adaptive and Supersampling again can cripple performance.Make sure cat AI is fully enabled too as this helps to optimise performance.

I'm sure with some system tweaking you'll get what you'd hoped for from the card without having to spend a lot more money,the extra 2 gig of ram is essential but the rest of your system is up to the job imo.
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Thanks this what i was thinking stalker should be running a bit better then what it is now even with my cpu/ram.

I will do the ati cat tweaks you said after i have done driver sweep and restalled ati drivers 10.6 ( i know AA is on Multi-sampling and AI was off.

If that don't work i will do a fresh install of windows 7 just to make sure

And if that all don't work i will wait till i get my new cpu/ram then see what happens lol.

Just to add when windows 7 32 is idle i use under 500MB of ram and when playing stalker it does go upto 1.5

I do have another 2gb of ram i can put in but it's slower then the other 2gb and i can't keep my cpu oc to 3.6 i would need to drop it back down to 3GHZ

Thanks all.
 
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GothicGhost said:
I do have another 2gb of ram i can put in but it's slower then the other 2gb and i can't keep my cpu oc to 3.6 i would need to drop it back down to 3GHZ
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Try it with the extra 2g ram at 3GHZ and see what happens, you should see an improvement with 4g over 2g.
You could also try using a free app called Game Booster from Iobit http://www.iobit.com/gamebooster.html
It will switch off all unnecessary processes while you game, then it will revert them when finished.
 
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