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Mite send 5870 back :(

Marine-RX179 said:
I disagree about the CPU. E6850 @3.6 would probably be holding back the 5870 speed at around 5830~5850 speed. But yes the RAM is an issue too, particularly for Metro 2033.
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E6850 @3.6 is fine, people place way to much stock in cpu speed/architecture limiting the gpu when that is only the case with a handful of games, most games are GPU limited, although to be fair Metro 2033 does take advantage of extra cores.
 
So could be drivers or some thing other then cpu/ram giving me low fps in stalker ? even in dx10

If i do fresh install of windows 7 should i do 32 or 64 bit with 2GB

Cheers.
 
GothicGhost said:
So could be drivers or some thing other then cpu/ram giving me low fps in stalker ? even in dx10

If i do fresh install of windows 7 should i do 32 or 64 bit with 2GB

Cheers.
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Upgrade your ram asap, it's pence these days, make a thread in the wanted section of mm if your limited by funds, and then do a fresh install of W7 x64, you can't be running game like Metro 2033 on 2gig of 5300 ram.
 
lowrider007 said:
E6850 @3.6 is fine, people place way to much stock in cpu speed/architecture limiting the gpu when that is only the case with a handful of games, most games are GPU limited, although to be fair Metro 2033 does take advantage of extra cores.
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I thought Metro 2033 would be around the same level if not more CPU demanding than the original Crysis, and he's not exact got a E8400 at 4.0GHz or a Quad. CPU would at least hold back the capability of 5870 in Crysis:
http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/cpus/2010/03/03/overclocking-intel-core-i3-530/8
 
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Ok forget metro for a min as that really does need the cpu/ram upgrade i will get in about 2 weeks.

I will be happy to get stalker cop min frames up :D

(update)

I did driver sweep again and it found more nvidia drivers so i got rid of them.

I i was also going down clock my cpu and put the other 2gb of ram in but i first checked cpu-z and my cpu was already down clocked @ stock speeds :(

So i put it back to 3.6 tested stalker again and fps almost never goes under 30 in dx11.

Should i try going over 3.6 would it help much more ?

I am happy with 5870 and the sooner i get the new cpu/ram the better :)

Thanks all.
 
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Ok i done more tests :)

Down clocked cpu to stock and still fps does not drop much ( nothing like it was doing)

I think it was old drivers from 9600GT as after done driver sweep second time my min fps in stalker cop is 35-45 and normal fps is about 50-70 maxed out dx11

I did try oc 5870 but it crashed few times and did not see much more fps far as i know but at stock speeds its great for now.

Very happy now :D
 
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GothicGhost said:
Ok i done more tests :)

Down clocked cpu to stock and still fps does not drop much ( nothing like it was doing)

I think it was old drivers from 9600GT as after done driver sweep second time my min fps in stalker cop is 35-45 and normal fps is about 50-70 maxed out dx11

I did try oc 5870 but it crashed few times and did not see much more fps far as i know but at stock speeds its great for now.

Very happy now :D
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Well done mate,glad you got it sorted. It just goes to show how some minor system tweaks can make all the difference in many situations. With the extra ram you should see yet more improvement.
 
Thanks.

Running stalker my ram usage never goes over 1.5 but i would like to use some other mods that need the extra ram as well.

Soon i will have the other bits to finish off my pc :)

Cheers.
 
For Metro, disable both Tesselation and Depth of Field effects in the advanced dx11 settings, the DoF setting actively REDUCES IQ, and most people find the game better with it off, it kills performance and is completely awful anyway. Many games use pointless effects badly and kill performance doing so, but because its used as a "max settings" type option some people won't accept its worse.

Likewise, tesselation makes almsot zero difference, you quite literally need to pause the game and zoom in to see 90% of the difference tesselation makes in the game, its generally the very edge of coat sleeves, and the odd helmet and the difference is marginal.

A 480gtx, or a 5870 will drop from 60fps average with 25-30fps mins, to about 30fps average and 15fps min if you enable both settings, at 1920x1200 that is. Basically the two settings make the game unplayable in max details with any setup under a 480sli/5870xfire setup, and all for worse visuals.

Stalker you seem to have fixed, Metro was seemingly working as intended, disable those two settings and it will run absolutely great on a 5870 at any res.

The next thing to upgrade is to go to 4gb memory, more memory ALWAYS trumps faster memory, if you run out of memory your computer and games will slow down a lot. Res will have a large effect on how much memory you need though, dramatically so.
 
Holy ****

Thanks drunkenmaster :D

Metro runs a lot faster now where i was getting 25fps i am now getting over 50 fps
dx11 very high settings
Tesselation and Depth of Field off
No AA ( need to test to see what i can add on without much fps loss

Thanks again.
 


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Not got metro yet, but this is the "available" RAM in a crysis game (paradise lost in window mode and full very high settings. Still a healthy 1.72 GB to play about with. But with 2 Gig - well, you are on a minus point i guess:)


Specs: 5970/[email protected]/4gig ram/Win7 64 and so forth...

Ant
 
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