MK4 Golf, but which engine?

Didn't get my edit in on time! Damn it.

I didn't read it, I have experiance of it. Torque means very little in regards to a diesel having any advantage, as the torque is produced at lower rev = less power. There is no advantage to it as far as a race is concirned.
 
Pants said:
Didn't get my edit in on time! Damn it.

I didn't read it, I have experiance of it. Torque means very little in regards to a diesel having any advantage, as the torque is produced at lower rev = less power. There is no advantage to it as far as a race is concirned.
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As far as motorway cruising goes however torque is everything. I've got a mk4 R32, and my brother a mk4 PD130. I was following him up the motorway the other day, and when cars pulled out the way ahead of him and he stuck his foot down I was hard down in top to keep up. Of course if I had changed gears it would have been a different story - but thats something I'd do on the racetrack, not on the long haul (I won't comment about the clouds of black smoke coming out of his exhaust). I'd like to see a 1.6 keep up ;)

The VAG PD oil burners are amazingly torquey - plus he does 50+ mpg while I'm doing 25.
 
Bradmax57 said:
The 2.8 4motion is a cracker but then again your limited to what can be done with it (if thats your thing) a 1.8T tuned can quite easily beat one but the v6 growl is always going to beat it
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Only limited if you stay n/a. Turbo on the other hand is not hard if you know how. :D Anyway I still need to turbo mine, i must stop thinking about other cars that I will never be able to afford!
 
Tumbletop said:
As far as motorway cruising goes however torque is everything. I've got a mk4 R32, and my brother a mk4 PD130. I was following him up the motorway the other day, and when cars pulled out the way ahead of him and he stuck his foot down I was hard down in top to keep up. Of course if I had changed gears it would have been a different story - but thats something I'd do on the racetrack, not on the long haul (I won't comment about the clouds of black smoke coming out of his exhaust). I'd like to see a 1.6 keep up ;)

The VAG PD oil burners are amazingly torquey - plus he does 50+ mpg while I'm doing 25.
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I agree for in gear times torque is important. Just not so important for all out foot to the floor traffic light GP for various reasons, which is what i'm trying to gat across. :)
 
well obviously i was in a certain european country on a clear motorway with fast flowing traffic but the speedo went past 150 so stick that in your 1.6 and smoke it
 
MrSix said:
Dont get a PD130 though, they're pretty slow (I can keep up in my 1.6).
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What a load of rot. No way on earth is the 1.6 going to be able to keep up when the TDI is out of first gear. I'm not quite sure where you get 108bhp from either. The 1.6 8V is 100bhp as stock while the later 16V is 105bhp. Most PD130s RR at about 140bhp, good ones make 145bhp as standard.

I ran a Bora 1.6 8v for 5 years before changing to a Fabia vRS PD130 and have also driven PD115, PD130, 1.6 16V and 2.0 Mk4s. The 1.6 is damn near as quick as the 2.0 (inert, unrefined and rattly) but no competition for the PDs.
 
MagicBoy said:
What a load of rot. No way on earth is the 1.6 going to be able to keep up when the TDI is out of first gear. I'm not quite sure where you get 108bhp from either. The 1.6 8V is 100bhp as stock while the later 16V is 105bhp. Most PD130s RR at about 140bhp, good ones make 145bhp as standard.

I ran a Bora 1.6 8v for 5 years before changing to a Fabia vRS PD130 and have also driven PD115, PD130, 1.6 16V and 2.0 Mk4s. The 1.6 is damn near as quick as the 2.0 (inert, unrefined and rattly) but no competition for the PDs.
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Here Bloody Here!
 
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