MLPPP with a Cisco 1720, or Linux box?

Nice looking router wesley, but it seems it only supports redundancy and load balancing, NOT MLPPP :( The only Vigor I can find that DOES support MLPPP is over £250 and has a maximum speed of 128k LOL
 
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yeah you're right, i apologise.

what make and model ADSL2+ modem PCI card to use if go for pfsense?

also that link posted in 2nd post mentioned ADSL (dslMAX) pci card. i've googled but couldnt find a ADSL2+ PCI card anywhere :confused:
 
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ok, seems to be lots of hassle, 4 boxes in total

2 routers ------cisco 2720/linux box-------router/switch
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Depends on what you call hassle :D I already run an external modem attached to a router, so for me it's only two more boxes (an extra modem and a "bonding device" of some sort). Two extra (tiny) boxes for a total of almost 50 megs unthrottled, unlimited downloads? Where do I sign? :p
 
If you have a single 1841 with two ADSL WICs, can you do it without the routers? That's a one-box solution surely?
 
I used an 1841 with 2 wics for a bonded adsl solution a while back for a customer, this was with normal adsl though.
I suspect the price of the adsl2 wics to be prohibitive.
If you use your own modems then at least the 1841 has 2 onboard fastethernet ports.

EDIT you will still then need an addition ethernet wic for your lan port.
 
Upstream's Bonded ADSL Linux CD is a dedicated bonding distro, but you have to pay a subscription to them annually (£23 per NIC!) or your WAN won't connect.

I'm leaning towards selling my WRT/DG834GT/2091 and buying a nice new Gigabit draft 2 N wifi router such as the D-Link DIR-655 (which can put through ~300 megs actual from WAN to LAN). I can build a small flash-based Linux box as a custom bonding machine (3x NICs) and plug that in. Debian or any other distro would be fairly easy to set up for MPPP and would run nicely on such a machine.

Lots of options. I'm going to speak to BT in a moment to ask whether the £29.99 line install is still valid (one of the replies on that thread said the offer expired at the end of June, but I couldn't see that in the PDF).
 
Hmm.. Just to muddy the waters a bit. Remember the email I pasted in here, from a Be techie confirming to my friend that they support MPPP? Here's one that *I* just received (I emailed them before my mate told me he'd beaten me to it lol):

Dear Rainmaker,

Thank you for contacting us.

We are excited about your decision to join Be*.
Nevertheless you should be aware that we do not support MLPPP as it is not used for ADSL but for LANs with multiple dial-up or ISDN lines. Our connection runs over RFC 1483 protocol.


Kind regards,
Be*Team
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So, one guy says yes, another says no. Time to speak to Head Office before I pay for a 2nd BT line me thinks. Gotta give UK Online their due, they're never this indecisive/mis-informed :o
 
well, i read carefully what jabns posted in bethere forums, what he actually use is load-balancing with multi threaded applications. so therefore it's not true MLPPP

but i still dont know how he got 38mb speedtest, i thought any speedtest only test on 1 IP address. i still call BS
 
Yeah but don't forget we've had one Be techie confirm via email that they DO support MLPPP.... I'm on the phone to them now (on hold) to get some clarification.

EDIT - I'm guessing this is level 1 support. Some Bulgarian chap who sighs a lot and has asked me to repeat x3 what I want to do. He's STILL asking for my account number (I've told him several times I'm not a customer yet) and asking me to tell him again what I want "for this bonding".

Is it hard to get escalated? :(
 
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ok fair enough, but i *still* dont get it why jabns using pfsense to load-balancing/failsafe between 2 lines, i believe it's possible to download a file from HTTP/FTP etc via multi threaded application to get overall faster speed via 2 IP addresses, but i know it's impossible to get that speed on usenet/bit torrent/speedtest unless i'm wrong

someone must know what the different between MLPPP and load-balancing WITH multi threaded applications???
 
OK, I take back what I just said. Nikolai (spelling?) came back and explained VERY carefully to me that:

1) YES, Be's DSLAMS are CONFIGURED to work if the customer was to know how to set up true MLPPP bonding.

2) NO if you get stuck they WON'T help you out or tell you how to do it. Not. Their. Problem :p However if you DO have a capable device or dedi Linux box, you can easily configure and use MLPPP for up to 48 megs down, 5 megs up. I got him to repeat that very clearly and authoritatively. It WILL work :D
 
Well if that happened you wait for the 3 month contract on the 2nd Be account to pass and just cancel. In the meantime you at least have an (inferior) load balanced multi-threaded connection.

But in my case I have a good mate who works for a hosting company and works with Linux/networking in a data centre for a living. He can MLPPP my line in his sleep so WIN!
 
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