MMRPG's, FPS's etc - Griefing..fun or childish

MikeB

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Similar to the other topic on cheating, have you ever griefed just for giggles.

My confessions are two fold, I used to be a big player on Asherons Call, when bored I'd run into the wilderness, attract as much crap as I can and make it all follow me back into town, mayhem ensued as loads of people standing in the 'safe' areas got massacred by the mobs, would be bodies everywhere.

At the time it was hilarious, looking back now it is still funny...will I go to hell?

Also couldn't beat C4 in a vechicule on a battlefield game, let the noob run into the tank,plane, heli...move off a bit....and BANG!
 
I hate to say that was all I used to play for...

WOW

once I reached level 60, just by grinding I used to spend all my time just being plain evil. I think i reached this way of thinking after being ganked once while running a mission and it changed the way I played forever.

used to hold up in low level towns on roofs and just rain death down on newbs..... often me and a bunch of guild m8s would just hold up in a low level town building and fight them off as long as possible, kind of like COD Zombies but real people :)

once killed (by luck) a entire large raiding party of around 50 lower level alliance dudes with AOE on my mage... that was possibly the funniest thing I've ever seen.


EVE ONLINE

I gained fame in the eve universe (char was Tiller) just by killing everything and anyone I came across.. I think at the end of my sub I had slain over 20,000 people and it got to a stage where I didn't have to worry about in game currency as corps payed me just not to shoot them. Even had people send me cash while I was AFK and docked lol


Fun times...
 
Must admit, I've never griefed. I've just never seen the point of it. I guess its fun for those who do it though but to me it just seems like going to the nearest park to play football with the people there and then just bursting the football with a nail each time. I guess the difference is that if you do that inevitably the people in the park kick your head in. The advantage of the anonymous non-physical presence of the internet being of course that nobody can do anything back to you :)
 
Tombstone said:
Must admit, I've never griefed. I've just never seen the point of it. I guess its fun for those who do it though but to me it just seems like going to the nearest park to play football with the people there and then just bursting the football with a nail each time. I guess the difference is that if you do that inevitably the people in the park kick your head in. The advantage of the anonymous non-physical presence of the internet being of course that nobody can do anything back to you :)
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Fair enough, it is nice being all comfy at home knowing there's zero comeback!
 
It is quite funny to see how people react to this sort of thing, not that I do it myself. I suppose with some mmo players it's the only social life they have, so it would really pi$$ them off.
 
In Asherons Call I was quite a good Player Killer, favourite grief was to kill someone, rob there stuff and then give it to the town crier (Which perma deleted it), you then got a town wide message saying what i had done, made some people go into orbit with rage
 
Sleepery said:
Well, if the game mechanics allow it, you have to accept that some idiot is going to find it funny.
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This. Given a large enough population there will always be ****s - but they also play a role. Hunting down ****s and making their life miserable has provided hours of fun for me. Games would be very boring without them.
 
Ultima Online.... oh god that was amusing :)

PK clans used to sit outside main town and just kill all the noobs trying to do some mining :) I loved that game
 
Gideon Lorr said:
Counter Strike Source....glass maps....need I say more ;)
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Great fun on those, especially in 1.6 ones that had the model bug for HE/glass explosions that caused more floor to disappear. Much TK'ing by destroying team-mates floor and watching them plummet. I still don't understand how people can go on those servers/maps and want to win. ;)
 
Used to do a bit of corpse camping with my Night Elf in WoW once in a blue moon, it's fun for about 5 minutes then just boring. Training mobs in EQ was quite fun if I thought I deserved a certain hunting spot and someone else was trying to muscle in though.

PK's in old UO weren't griefing, unless they were using spell macro's and using spells from more than a screen away. Nor is blowing up ships or pod killing people in EVE.
 
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I'd camp people on Queldanas if they were dumb enough to try their luck against a feral druid in full sunwell gear, especially rogues, that was hilarious I could take 2 or 3 if they didn't know what they were doing.
 
I think there is some confusion between PKing and Griefing though.

At least in my mind there is a fundamental difference between the two, for instance..if I travel to a dungeon and there is a guy there PKing people who try to enter...thats PKing.

Alternatively, if there is a guy stood at a spawn point, repeatedly killing people the moment they respawn, thats griefing. Likewise, exploiting flaws in the game mechanics, such as holes in terrain, use of the height axis in the knowledge that NPCs cant counter it etc...that comes under griefing/exploiting.

Doesnt particularly bother me, UO was my favourite MMO of all time and had plenty of that sort of thing going on. Like I say, I personally would never do it as I simply dont see the point, but I'm sure for a certain mindset of person its hilarious (at least for the griefer, maybe not so much for the griefee).
 
Griefing is fun if you don't get to involved with the drama, if you can grief and just allow everyone else to "rage" then yeah, it is very fun.

I laughed when Flukster said "once killed (by luck)" because thats the sort of person that would go onto the WoW forums and have crybaby arguments ;)
 
.Lethal said:
Griefing is fun if you don't get to involved with the drama, if you can grief and just allow everyone else to "rage" then yeah, it is very fun.
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Yeah, like I say it does require a certain mindset in the head of the griefer.

I'm a big soft wimp of a guy so I dont have that mindset, I'm always trying to do what I can to try and help people enjoy a game so I cant actually grief as I just end up feeling guilty for spoiling someones fun. Guess I am just too much of a wimp :)
 
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