Mobo for 9900K ?

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I'm putting together an Intel build for a friend and he has a £300 budget for a mobo, I've been looking around and the Asus stuff according to buildzoid on Youtube isn't that good in the VRM department especially for the price you pay, Are MSI any good ? Was looking at the MSI MEG ACE.

Any recommendations ?
 
Dicehunter said:
According to Buildzoid, He's a genius with electronics, The VRM on the Hero is kind of garbage.
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But it will overclock the 9900k to 5ghz with the right cpu. After that does it even matter. MSI are a decent make as well. I've had one for 7 years now and it hasn't missed a beat.
 
Gigabyte have the best VRM's on the Z390 platform, learnt that after researching them before I bought mine, but what you gain in quality of materials on the circuit board you (apparently) lose in BIOS user friendliness. Personally I can't say I've noticed much difference between this Gigabyte BIOS and the Z97 Asus Hero board BIOS from which I previoulsy had with my 4690K, TBH.
 
Dicehunter said:
I'm putting together an Intel build for a friend and he has a £300 budget for a mobo, I've been looking around and the Asus stuff according to buildzoid on Youtube isn't that good in the VRM department especially for the price you pay, Are MSI any good ? Was looking at the MSI MEG ACE.

Any recommendations ?
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For full-sized boards (excluding APEX) either the MEG ACE or the GIGABYTE Z390 Aorus Master.

None of the ASROCK full-sized boards match-up yet because the OC Formula is yet to appear.

What I will say though is that neither the MSI or the Gigabyte generally deliver the highest RAM clocks, this is not due to the VRM quality. For that you will need an APEX or an ASROCK.

MITX boards are different and I have personally gone for the ASROCK MITX Z390 because the VRM modules are actually higher quality than the full-sized boards and will do 5.4ghz no problem. On this particular board the VRM modules themselves are better than the Gigabyte Master however, there are less of them.
 
Asus Gene or Apex. Their VRM's are top notch and they'll blow away anything else in the memory overclocking department. Every other asus board isn't worth it. If that means moving the budget a few, do it.

Gigabyte Master would be other choice.

Avoid MSI and Asrock.
 
Besty said:
For full-sized boards (excluding APEX) either the MEG ACE or the GIGABYTE Z390 Aorus Master.
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This ^^. Recently being looking at a 9900k (ks when it finally surfaces) build for the wife and the MEG ACE for me seemed the most feature rich for the price. May also build myself one too if my self control fails me :D

Best

Wulf
 
Dicehunter said:
According to Buildzoid, He's a genius with electronics, The VRM on the Hero is kind of garbage.
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In terms of phase count sure, however for the average user its still plenty. Never given me a problem even clocking mine (XI FORMULA) to 5.4ghz which is near on uncoolable even with custom loop. VRM temps still extremely cool.

Even ln2 it isn't an issue. They have had 6.8ghz runs. The only issue is price at which gigabyte do offer more for your money for sure. Design wise and bios wise not my cup of tea personally.

If it was me and i had dual memory. I'd go with the apex.

Failing that. The hero or Aorus master.
 
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tyler_jrb said:
In terms of phase count sure, however for the average user its still plenty. Never given me a problem even clocking mine (XI FORMULA) to 5.4ghz which is near on uncoolable even with custom loop. VRM temps still extremely cool.

Even ln2 it isn't an issue. They have had 6.8ghz runs. The only issue is price at which gigabyte do offer more for your money for sure. Design wise and bios wise not my cup of tea personally.

If it was me and i had dual memory. I'd go with the apex.

Failing that. The hero or Aorus master.
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You are right there matey, got to admire a bit of over-engineering though. what volts for 5.4 on your chip?
 
Besty said:
You are right there matey, got to admire a bit of over-engineering though. what volts for 5.4 on your chip?
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It’s been a while since I’ve ran it but it was around 1.4-1.45v ish I think.

I managed to get some runs on cinebench and even prime95 but it was in the 90c’s which is just too high even for me :p.

It will do 5.2ghz at 1.27v so it’s left at that for 24/7 usage :cool:.
 
tyler_jrb said:
It’s been a while since I’ve ran it but it was around 1.4-1.45v ish I think.

I managed to get some runs on cinebench and even prime95 but it was in the 90c’s which is just too high even for me :p.

It will do 5.2ghz at 1.27v so it’s left at that for 24/7 usage :cool:.
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man that’s a sweet chip.

i got a 5.1 bin coming thursday but it’s a 1.3v bin. is 1.27 including vdroop or is 1.27v what you set in the bios plus LLC ?
 
Besty said:
man that’s a sweet chip.

i got a 5.1 bin coming thursday but it’s a 1.3v bin. is 1.27 including vdroop or is 1.27v what you set in the bios plus LLC ?
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It’s set at 1.3v but with vdroop load voltage is 1.27v.

It was a specialist chip when I bought it so I knew roughly how good it was. I got it from a guy 2nd hand on hwbot. Didn’t want to pay ocuk prices for a 5ghz+ chip :eek:

I’ve delidded and ran it with a direct die since then which has improved things too.
 
Besty said:
What I will say though is that neither the MSI or the Gigabyte generally deliver the highest RAM clocks, this is not due to the VRM quality. For that you will need an APEX or an ASROCK.
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There is a new version of the bios out for the z390 Aorus Master. On the stock bios I could not boot with my team group 4133 ram, even at 2400, but with the new bios, I have no problems running at 4133 :)
 
ubiquity said:
There is a new version of the bios out for the z390 Aorus Master. On the stock bios I could not boot with my team group 4133 ram, even at 2400, but with the new bios, I have no problems running at 4133 :)
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Gigabyte are still playing catchup, specifically on ram speeds.

I built my asrock mitx into by b0xen yesterday. the 3200 team group modules do 4500 C19.

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