Soldato
My email/web browsing/4k Youtube PC has a very old case.. inside is i5 8500, 16gb DDR4, Quadro P600.. although its got RGB on top
Modern computer cases are going to hell
- Thread starter storm-chaser
- Start date
My email/web browsing/4k Youtube PC has a very old case.. inside is i5 8500, 16gb DDR4, Quadro P600.. although its got RGB on top
Lian Li had plenty of decently priced options 10+/15 years ago with design made for functionality and flexibility.
~200€ in 2008 for still in use PC-A71B isn't anymore that much per year...
You're only in start.
I spent about five months in starting to ponder requirements, look for options, tweak requirements, look options again, re-iterate things, rinse and repeat...
Soldato
Ha Ha.. I suspect we are the silent majority. To be fair it's the whole point of building your own. I agonize over spending money at the moment anyway. Picking the right spec and options gets re-thought daily..
Actually have been trying to ugrade monitor for over year, but lack of good options and no actual release of CES announced products have stalled that.Ha Ha.. I suspect we are the silent majority. To be fair it's the whole point of building your own. I agonize over spending money at the moment anyway. Picking the right spec and options gets re-thought daily..
I guess I could wait for CES and anyway might have to wait for reannoucnement of my first choise in there.
Though suspect there won't be any 4K QD-OLEDs, because now we should hve had "leaks" from major releses.
So now I'm in the middle of telescope upgrade from good ol "designed in Siberia" TAL-1 specced to work normally in -30 to 30C.
Actually started first considerations fair year ago but really started checking options late summer.
With really only moon observing possible from start of May to early August first considered Cassegrains for their compact size and high magnifications.
But their prices are higher per aperture and FOV is more limited than in TAL-1 hindering deep sky.
So with also simplicity and reliable, minimal fiddling in operation as requirement ended up to Dobson mounted Newtonian.
And ordered Orion Optics VX10 with 1/10PV mirror month ago for delivery hopefully in about month.
Since that have been going through eyepieces and have overall scheme figured to two options.
With 28mm 82° UWA as wide angle hand grenade in both to give wider view than currently in TAL-1 and at higher magnification
Which is ordered under Tecnosky brand (saving 140€ over first found variant) and on its way.
Soldato
By chance Orion Optics are about 2 miles away from me. Many years ago they let me have a little look into their mirror polishing area. I bought one of their then F5 Europa Series 6" Newtonians. I think they went on to become the VX series. Excellent quality kit. I've not really cared for mine as I should but it's still like new. To be fair it only comes out 2-3 times a year when the nights are warm.
Same, I think I must have spent a month+ going back and forth, comparing and choosing a repayment case. after I got it I was still not happy due to design issues
it is frustrating if you just want a normal looking case with no rgb. just straight steel clean looking case. market is missing out on that.currently trying to find a full tower like suggested but the only ones about are stupid prices. even though they cost less to make than rgb cases.
also because of the rgb everything at moment 2nd hand prices for old cases is stupid. so you kinda screwed.
also because of the rgb everything at moment 2nd hand prices for old cases is stupid. so you kinda screwed.
I know how you feel, even if the case does not have RGB most are made to show off RGB Fans in some way.
I don't think old (used) cases prices are high but it depend on what you want.
just look at some of the good old brands that used to make great looking cases. antec now for eg make the most hideous cases on the planet. i dont get how some of these big companies function. you look at the cases like one glance that wont sell well. so whos designing these monstrosities ? its not just antec many big brands oh it wants a window rgb then do something different.
a lot of the old good looking cases especially if full towers are at least 100 quid 2nd hand. even med budget ones that were popular from yesteryear fetch probably more than new.
hopefully at some point people work out that there is a big market for simple sleak good looking steel cases not everyone wants rgb or windows.
I agree most of the great case companies of the past don't make good cases anymore. some of the other companies (lian li, fractal, Phanteks) have stepped up a little but most copy each other or just stick with the same design, they also don't make as many new full tower cases anymore like the past but again I think they are just copying each other and or it could be the demand they see.
A lot of the case makers have been changing focus to other thing and markets.
Im not sure used prices have gone but again it may just be the case. but new prices have been going up like most other things.
Hopefully things will change and
A lot of the case makers have been changing focus to other thing and markets.
Im not sure used prices have gone but again it may just be the case. but new prices have been going up like most other things.
Hopefully things will change and
Look at two of the most talked about cases on the market right now - the Lian Li O11 Dynamic EVO and the Fractal North. Regardless of which of these floats your boat, the thing these have in common is the fact that they prioritise style and appearance. And Youtube content creators are gushing over these, because they look flashy in a 10 minute video, perfect for clickbait and monitisation.
The standout thing about these two cases is that they manage to deliver on the appearance side without compromising too much on the functional things. But unfortunately as always they'll encourage the market to do precisely the opposite.
There are a couple of cases out there I do like - the Corsair 4000D and Fractal North are really good cases if you're ok with the restricted capacity for large GPUs and AIOs. The Fractal Pop, and Lian Li 216 in particular are good-value high-performers with very few functional compromises. The NZXT H7 Flow is an exellect all-rounder (my personal choice).
The standout thing about these two cases is that they manage to deliver on the appearance side without compromising too much on the functional things. But unfortunately as always they'll encourage the market to do precisely the opposite.
There are a couple of cases out there I do like - the Corsair 4000D and Fractal North are really good cases if you're ok with the restricted capacity for large GPUs and AIOs. The Fractal Pop, and Lian Li 216 in particular are good-value high-performers with very few functional compromises. The NZXT H7 Flow is an exellect all-rounder (my personal choice).
Soldato
- Joined
- 16 Aug 2009
- Posts
- 7,997
Not sure what the fuss is about unless you're buying some cheap tacky thing with tinplate panels that feel and sound like the lid of a biscuit tin (and yes, I bought one once, l learnt my lesson with that, they're cheap for a reason) none of the decent cases have RGB if you don't want one neither the newest I just bought or the previous one. (It doesn't have 5 1/4 bays either but then I don't have any other than an external that someone gave me for the odd DVD/CD I might want to pop in mainly to rip its contents to my drive but from what others say you can still buy them if you want.) If you mean RGB in the sense of fans at the front of the case you know you don't have to fit those right? The stock photos have garish rainbow lighting on the fans mainly to attract the eye I think, its optional as to colour or indeed having any light at all.
Even though mine has a tinted dark glass side theres no rgb other than the 4 fans and the Geforce RTX logo on the side of the gfx card and they're all white. Which fits in with the theme of the case itself, black and white, its all quite minimalistic and I could disable those if I wanted but I like some lighting just not the disco theme people like to mock. The choice is yours really mine was for good airflow and ease of fitting fans/radiators and the Phanteks P600S fits that nicely with room for a 480 at the front and a 360 at the top and 140mm fans too not those small 120mm fans (previous case only allowed a 240mm rad at the top and only 120mm fans at that, basically only an H100 because it was a Corsair case try and fit an Arctic 240 in there, nope won't fit). The panels remove easily too unlike the old case which didn't want to come apart you can reduce it to the bare metal carcass with a few tugs and the side panels both swing open and shut, are held by a magnet, no latches to fiddle with but will lift off if you want.
So that and a good cable tidy having had rat's nests of cables previously this is a joy with with well placed velcro ties hidden at the back it works really well. Its the same height as the old case but shorter depthwise as it doesn't have those aformentioned drive bays if I wish it had anything its that. But fitting those in around the rad placements could be awkward so its a design compromise (the Enthoo pro does has drive bays but not the fans nor probably the room for radiators either) I like, indeed want good airflow especially with recent gen gfx cards which are large and use a lot of watts and hence throw out a lot of heat the old case simply couldn't cope and everything was overheating (even managed to cook two ram sticks which sat above the card and directly in its aiflow, b-die stuff too.) In this case I could fit a riser if wanted, but at £50-60 a pop for a bit of cable and a couple of connectors I'll have think about that one.
And beige. Don't forget the beige.
Even though mine has a tinted dark glass side theres no rgb other than the 4 fans and the Geforce RTX logo on the side of the gfx card and they're all white. Which fits in with the theme of the case itself, black and white, its all quite minimalistic and I could disable those if I wanted but I like some lighting just not the disco theme people like to mock. The choice is yours really mine was for good airflow and ease of fitting fans/radiators and the Phanteks P600S fits that nicely with room for a 480 at the front and a 360 at the top and 140mm fans too not those small 120mm fans (previous case only allowed a 240mm rad at the top and only 120mm fans at that, basically only an H100 because it was a Corsair case try and fit an Arctic 240 in there, nope won't fit). The panels remove easily too unlike the old case which didn't want to come apart you can reduce it to the bare metal carcass with a few tugs and the side panels both swing open and shut, are held by a magnet, no latches to fiddle with but will lift off if you want.
So that and a good cable tidy having had rat's nests of cables previously this is a joy with with well placed velcro ties hidden at the back it works really well. Its the same height as the old case but shorter depthwise as it doesn't have those aformentioned drive bays if I wish it had anything its that. But fitting those in around the rad placements could be awkward so its a design compromise (the Enthoo pro does has drive bays but not the fans nor probably the room for radiators either) I like, indeed want good airflow especially with recent gen gfx cards which are large and use a lot of watts and hence throw out a lot of heat the old case simply couldn't cope and everything was overheating (even managed to cook two ram sticks which sat above the card and directly in its aiflow, b-die stuff too.) In this case I could fit a riser if wanted, but at £50-60 a pop for a bit of cable and a couple of connectors I'll have think about that one.
And beige. Don't forget the beige.
Last edited:
I like the RGB and cool case designs. Why not? Customization is one of the benefits of building a PC. I usually just have all my lighting set to white, but I like turning it pink now and then. The market has spoken and this "issue" was decided years and years ago. Let it go.
I just wish there was a bit more variation on aesthetic. 95% of cases now look the same: Black featureless rectangle. I actually prefer the slightly wackier designs simply because they don't look like everything else out there. It feels like the innovation is gone and most companies are going cookie cutter and playing it super safe.
I like the idea of more original cases being sold. But I still think there's more variety than ever before. What era are you picturing exactly as the height of originality and variety?
Permabanned
- Joined
- 9 Aug 2008
- Posts
- 35,708
They getting heavy and pricey that’s what’s happening and people are paying for them.
The markets saturated now and flooded with all kinds of cases.
The markets saturated now and flooded with all kinds of cases.
Soldato
When I bought my o11 evo I had specific requirements in size and what I was going to fit in the case. The o11 is now a heavily copied design these days....
The options turned out to be incredibly limited....There just wasn't really a decent option without glass, something I'd have preferred, I just don't like the idea of glass in a pc case, glass breaks, not to mention the insides of my pc now gets direct sunlight and it's heat hitting them....
I did however like the airflow employed by the o11 evo, top to bottom airflow with the new pass through cooling designs of gpu's made total sense to me and why I ended up buying it, I just wish they'd have done a version WITHOUT glass....
I tried the rgb fad with this case and just found the software was a resource hog and imo the fans that I picked, lian li due to cable management rather than rgb, not exactly great....
So here I am with a case that might as well be half made of glass, no rgb and a nearly all black build inside it...a case that I likely paid a premium on because of said glass.
The options turned out to be incredibly limited....There just wasn't really a decent option without glass, something I'd have preferred, I just don't like the idea of glass in a pc case, glass breaks, not to mention the insides of my pc now gets direct sunlight and it's heat hitting them....
I did however like the airflow employed by the o11 evo, top to bottom airflow with the new pass through cooling designs of gpu's made total sense to me and why I ended up buying it, I just wish they'd have done a version WITHOUT glass....
I tried the rgb fad with this case and just found the software was a resource hog and imo the fans that I picked, lian li due to cable management rather than rgb, not exactly great....
So here I am with a case that might as well be half made of glass, no rgb and a nearly all black build inside it...a case that I likely paid a premium on because of said glass.