Monaco & DRS

Skeeter said:
Sorry, not riled at you. I fully expect someone this weekend to come up with that excuse and I hope Eddie shoots them down. It was a comment that it will be nonsensical for a driver or team to make. Sorry if you felt I shot the messenger.

F1 drivers have tens of buttons and switches on their wheels. Any suggestion that holding down 2 and turning through what isn't a particularly challenging corner except for the walls is 'dangerous' is just an attempt to justify another reason for not wanting people to run it. After all, nobody complained about banning it through turn 3 in Spain, and thats a more challenging corner. The drivers just didn't use it there.

I really hope the FIA see sense with this one.
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:) don't worry. The thing is, F1 isn't safe. They talk about things like this making it more dangerous, but by the very nature of it, it can't be completely safe, and would be boring if it was (I don't mean I like accidents, I mean safe = slow). Should be all or nothing really.
 
disappointing. Would like to hear the top drivers view on it, just looks like a case of sour grapes from the low end teams to me, or perhaps drivers who should consider whether F1 is really for them.
 
Only just read this - what a load of ****. They don't HAVE to press the DRS button. F1 is meant to have an element of risk.

Edit: Also, this is why we need a Monaco thread :p
 
I don't understand why everyone is so up in arms about banning DRS in the tunnel.

As I imagine it, the danger was not to do with the fact that the drivers would have to push an extra button whilst cornering, but more to do with the closing speed difference it would make. As has been seen so far during the season, the increase in speed between a car with DRS enabled, and one without can be massive, which could lead to drivers trying to overtake too early in the tunnel where there is not enough space, or else hit the car from behind. Recovery vehicle access in the tunnel is impossible, so a crash of this type would red flag proceedings for ages.

Also DRS was brought in the improve overtaking during the race, not to improve qualifying times. To be honest there is no "overtaking" during practice and qualifying, so I don't understand why they allow it at all at these times (other than to check downforce limits in places it is used during the race). It was never likely to be allowed in the tunnel during the race because of the above reason, so allowing it during practice/qually is pointless.
 
Teams need to calculate gear ratios, which they can do in qually, so they aren't bouncing on the limiter when attempting a pass in the race :)
 
EVH said:
Teams need to calculate gear ratios, which they can do in qually, so they aren't bouncing on the limiter when attempting a pass in the race :)
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I agree, if anything now it should be BLINDINGLY obvious that qually isn't the be all and end all. Set cars to have a better top speed/longer gearing in 7th so when DRS/KERS are used at the same time we don't replay Hamilton being stuck behind Vettel lap after lap on the long straight (for example) Taking the hit on qually performance would surely be worth it.
 
El_Watcher said:
I don't understand why everyone is so up in arms about banning DRS in the tunnel.

As I imagine it, the danger was not to do with the fact that the drivers would have to push an extra button whilst cornering, but more to do with the closing speed difference it would make. As has been seen so far during the season, the increase in speed between a car with DRS enabled, and one without can be massive, which could lead to drivers trying to overtake too early in the tunnel where there is not enough space, or else hit the car from behind. Recovery vehicle access in the tunnel is impossible, so a crash of this type would red flag proceedings for ages.

Also DRS was brought in the improve overtaking during the race, not to improve qualifying times. To be honest there is no "overtaking" during practice and qualifying, so I don't understand why they allow it at all at these times (other than to check downforce limits in places it is used during the race). It was never likely to be allowed in the tunnel during the race because of the above reason, so allowing it during practice/qually is pointless.
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DRS would only ever be during Qualifying and Practice, as the zone for the race is the run to turn 1, so there never would be any massive closing speed differences between DRS cars and non DRS cars, as all would have it open at the same time.

Unless of course you are assuming some cars will have enough grip to run it and other wont, but then thats back to the stupid idea that we should not penalise the fast cars for being faster than others, which is just stupid.

There are no real 'safety' fears. The teams are just using safety fears as a mask to get DRS banned to prevent top teams being able to use it and get an advantage.

Its totally pathetic if you ask me, and FIA should have stuck to their guns and told the drivers to zip it.
 
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