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Poll: Monaco Grand Prix 2019, Monte Carlo - Race 6/21

Discussion in 'Motorsport' started by Shimmy, May 21, 2019.

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Rate the 2019 Monaco Grand Prix out of ten

Poll closed Jun 2, 2019.
  1. 1

    12.1%
  2. 2

    13.2%
  3. 3

    20.9%
  4. 4

    15.4%
  5. 5

    15.4%
  6. 6

    11.0%
  7. 7

    9.9%
  8. 8

    1.1%
  9. 9

    1.1%
  10. 10

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  1. The_Abyss

    Capodecina

    Joined: May 15, 2007

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    Location: Ipswich / Bodham

    I've gone for a generous 3/10, purely for the reason that as I'm not watching it then something interesting may happen - a car nearly running over a pigeon or something.

    Also, because when I attended this grand prix a few years ago, to their credit they had the best portaloos of any F1 circuit that I've visited so far (although Barcelona has pretty good permanent toilet facilities).
     
  2. Apone70

    Wise Guy

    Joined: Aug 15, 2018

    Posts: 1,037

    You just watch now, it will be a classic. Full on carnage at turn 1 and loads of over takes.
    One can wish lol
     
  3. UTmaniac

    Mobster

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    Location: Here

    I've predicted a generous 2, on the basis that quali can be mildly good to watch here. ;)
     
  4. Spunkey

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    Location: The land of milk & beans

    @MrKnifey interested to hear the reason for the 10 :)
     
  5. PooKer

    Hitman

    Joined: Jan 16, 2008

    Posts: 606

    Location: East Sussex

    I've gone for a 5... in the hope the weather changes. Currently its already moved from being sunny with some clouds to just cloudy on Sunday.... so fingers cross for rain.
     
  6. pastymuncher

    Man of Honour

    Joined: Jul 12, 2005

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    Location: Aberlour, NE Scotland

    Given it a 1/10 as it's always boring here. Unless it rains, then it could have the potential to be a 5+/10. I hate this track as it's virtually impossible to overtake which makes for a boring follow the leader and would love to see it taken off the championship list. If they must "race" here do it as a non championship demo/PR stunt or similar
     
  7. Irish_Tom

    Capodecina

    Joined: Oct 18, 2002

    Posts: 12,146

    Cheers @Shimmy

    Will watch quali but probably skip the race, maybe watch the start…

    I'm hoping Hamilton can win it and Merc get another 1-2 for Niki. :)
     
  8. vanpeebles

    Soldato

    Joined: Aug 22, 2004

    Posts: 5,662

    Location: County Durham

    I've given it a 1, I think Sky will be promising a chance of rain from the first lap, even though the sky will be azure blue without a single cloud.
     
  9. rubberduck

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    Joined: Feb 8, 2004

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    Merc have clearly got active suspension going on. They didn't run it in winter testing but have now got it up and running. I reckon Ferrari had a better car initially but now Merc have overtaken them with shenanigans.
     
  10. layte

    Wise Guy

    Joined: Jun 14, 2008

    Posts: 2,309

    Gotta be 1/10. Always dull as dishwater this one, the most memorable moment in recent years be Kimi deciding to go chill on his yacht after retiring in the middle of the race.
     
  11. The_Abyss

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    You don't think something like active suspension would be rather straightforward for the FIA to spot? I note that there are no complaints from Ferrari, other than about their own performance.
     
  12. Spunkey

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    That's a pretty bold statement considering the amount of scrutineering the car has gone through by this point of the season, and how many spy shots the other teams will have taken of it. I highly doubt it's true in any way.
     
  13. rubberduck

    Mobster

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    I saw some videos showing the dynamic adjustment to ride height that the Mercedes is able to make in cornering.
     
  14. Flibster

    Caporegime

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    Bwaaahahahahahaha! :D :D :D Yeah.. Active suspension.... :rolleyes:
    You've watched the video of the Lotus/Williams running through it's test routine while in the garage haven't you?

    If they had active suspension, you would never see the front raise and drop like that, the front would be held at the perfect ride height at all times. The pressure would increase in the high speed sections which would be counteracting for the aerodynamic load pushed into the suspension. It never bounced up and down like that on the track, unless it failed...

    There's also the other thing, it's extremely obvious to spot active suspension.

    Any other wild theories you've got? Second turbo? Traction control? Ferrari are deliberately letting them win in order to get their own way on the 2021 regs?
     
  15. rubberduck

    Mobster

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    Ok well maybe not fully active suspension but certainly quasi active suspension... A bit like power assisted steering to just give things a nudge in the right direction at the right time. Merc have been asking for return of active suspension for a while now so probably feel they are ahead of other teams in this area. Looks like they managed to twist the rules to get a form of the tech on track which explains their dominance. Ham and bottas both feared this car would be another diva after testing but this new tech has solved their problems it seems.
     
  16. Steampunk

    Soldato

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    Well if we're making stuff up, I'd suggest that Mercedes are simply dancing naked around the car the night before the race, sacrificing a goat to Sha'alub the Destroyer, and rubbing unicorn juice into the tyres. That would be within the rules, whereas active suspension is not.
     
  17. Spunkey

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    Absolute ********.
     
  18. Greboth

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    Obviously it isn't active suspension - certainly not by the conventional definition anyway. However looking at it with a broader view, it wouldn't surprise me to find out Merc are using some suspension trickery in their car. You only have to look back a few years to things like FRIC's to see the work Merc (and other teams) will put in to advantageous suspension even if it isn't 'active' suspension.

    Edit: For clarification - I have no idea either way or what video Rubberduck saw to make the comment. Merc obviously have a legal car else all the scrutineering would have found something. However, I don't think it is beyond the realms of possibility that Merc have some trick albeit legal suspension. Though it is pure speculation so who knows.
     
  19. drunkenmaster

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    They all have trick suspension, all the top teams spend millions on trick suspension systems for every season, there are huge gains to be made there. As was pointed out to rubberduck, active suspension shows a complete lack of ride height change as it automatically adjusts to do so.

    https://www.reddit.com/r/formula1/comments/bs7xhg/mercs_unique_suspension_allowing_them_fully/

    The second post along with the image explains it quite well. Active means managed, means changing depending on conditions. A hinge is not active, it works the same way all race with no controlling aspect, it's just there but it only works within a specific range to really help in cornering. What's once again amazing from Merc is making a hinged suspension push rod that doesn't break under load.
     
  20. MrKnifey

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    I think we are all expecting a stinker, but something epic will happen.. (I hold hope)