Monitor or tv?

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Good morning.

I have a £300 budjet.
Thinking either a 40 " 4k TV
or a 30" dedicated monitor...

My new build will have a 1060 6 gig gtx mini gpu card.

Main requirements are for general browning, tv, films, flight sims & rpg.

I currently own an old 24" Dell 1600×1200 monitor fwiw..

Any advice welcome please.

Thanks
 
Samsung's TVs look good...but so does a dedicated monitor....Confused.com

I can push to £350 I f it helps
 
Good morning.
I'm thinking that a large screen would afford you to watch films at a distance (from bed...) and double up as a monitor for browsing etc. Also would be able to check out higher resolutions if my gpu can cope.
Or could just go with a dedicated smaller monitor and stick on a movable wall bracket (fonts must look tiny at higher resolutions?).
Just seems that TVs have come a long way since my last build and they seem so much cheaper than monitors.


My system specs (new build):

Lazer3D LZ7 Mini-ITX.
Corsair SF450 450W SFX Silent PSU/Power Supply.
MSI B450I GAMING PLUS AC (Socket AM4) Mini-ITX Motherboard.
Zotac NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1060 6GB Mini Graphics Card.
AMD Ryzen 5 Six Core 2600 3.90GHz (Socket AM4) Processor - Retail.
TeamGroup 480GB L5 Lite SSD 2.5" SATA 6Gbps 3D NAND Solid State Drive.
Team Group Vulcan T-Force 16GB (2x8GB) DDR4 PC4-24000C16 3000MHz Dual Channel Kit - Grey.
Noctua NH-L9a-AM4 Low Profile CPU Cooler - 92mm.
Corsair SF450 450W SFX Silent PSU/Power Supply.
Win10 Pro 64
IL2 COD Blitz, Condor 2, Shadow of TR for starters.

Any advice please?
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This might be out of date, but I seem to remember PC monitors having superior panels, especially for general usage where you need to read text on screen / be at a close distance to them. A 40" 16:9 on a desktop is also so big I'd think it'd be a bit overwhelming. Personally I'd go for a 1440p ~30", preferably with freesync/gysnc compatibility. That'll still feel like a phenomenal upgrade over a 1600x1200 24".

I note Shadow of the Tomb Raider on your list (not familiar with the other games personally). For that game at least you'd end up having to play at 1080p on a GTX 1060 with a 4K screen. I'd expect you'd have better luck with a 1440p screen @ native with that graphics card, probably on low-medium settings, but should be doable.
 
Hey Vexr :) Thanks again for help and advice m8. Much appreciated.
Will read up on this freesync/gsync compatibility.
SOTR looks amazing on my old monitor...can't imagine what it must look like on something modern!
 
Nvidia also finally changed that no AdaptiveSync (called as FreeSync by AMD) bit in drivers, so you don't have to pay G-Sync tax for variable refresh rate.
With resources freed from development of Zen and money to increase R&D AMD is starting to bring new design graphics cards this year and Intel intends to join discrete GPU market next year.
So not much sense in closed proprietary standard monitors.
That Nvidia tax is also one of the reasons for high prices in many monitors.

Slap said:
SOTR looks amazing on my old monitor...can't imagine what it must look like on something modern!
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Not much bigger in 27" 16:9 low screens.
27" is barely bigger in vertical size than 24" 16:10.
http://www.displaywars.com/24-inch-16x10-vs-27-inch-16x9
The lower the screen aspect ratio, the smaller it is for diagonal. (while needing more space from desk)

Myself having had 30" Dell U3014 for years display "development" seems pathetic, because 27" models would be such small...
http://www.displaywars.com/30-inch-16x10-vs-27-inch-16x9
With sizes of TVs having gone up so much, have to wonder why that 30" class is such neglected in monitors with little development.
 
You're welcome @Slap

EsaT said:
Not much bigger in 27" 16:9 low screens.
27" is barely bigger in vertical size than 24" 16:10.
http://www.displaywars.com/24-inch-16x10-vs-27-inch-16x9
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Unfortunately he has a 4:3 rather than a 16:10, and that resolution is rather low and very square by today's standards.

Nifty tool though. As I suspected going by my UW, which for me has a vertical height that's just about right for a desk and a huge horizontal width for immersion, a 40" 16:9 would be a towering monstrosity for a desk http://www.displaywars.com/34-inch-21x9-vs-40-inch-16x9 :P
 
EsaT said:
Nvidia also finally changed that no AdaptiveSync (called as FreeSync by AMD) bit in drivers, so you don't have to pay G-Sync tax for variable refresh rate.
With resources freed from development of Zen and money to increase R&D AMD is starting to bring new design graphics cards this year and Intel intends to join discrete GPU market next year.
So not much sense in closed proprietary standard monitors.
That Nvidia tax is also one of the reasons for high prices in many monitors.

Not much bigger in 27" 16:9 low screens.
27" is barely bigger in vertical size than 24" 16:10.
http://www.displaywars.com/24-inch-16x10-vs-27-inch-16x9
The lower the screen aspect ratio, the smaller it is for diagonal. (while needing more space from desk)

Myself having had 30" Dell U3014 for years display "development" seems pathetic, because 27" models would be such small...
http://www.displaywars.com/30-inch-16x10-vs-27-inch-16x9
With sizes of TVs having gone up so much, have to wonder why that 30" class is such neglected in monitors with little development.
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EsaT, sir, that was biblical...everything I needed to know somehow shrunk down to a single post!
Thank you for all that great info. It's the fourth time I'm reading it/trying to digest it...:)
You've got to love tech stuff...always improving.

Thx
 
Slap said:
Any recomendations on a 30" montor with free/G sink half 4k on £350 budget? Possible?
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My basket at Overclockers UK:
Total: £231.65 (includes shipping: £11.70)
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I'm just using that as an example to show that it should be possible. No idea on the quality of that monitor or if it's been proven GSync-compatible.

It looks like full GSync-only monitors add a very significant premium in this range (to like £400+), so maybe FreeSync and doing some home work to make sure it's good to support GSync is the way to go.
 
Thanks fo info Vexr.
That monitor would have done the trick (amazing bang for buck). Unfortunately my gpu supports only G-sink. What you say about paying premium on G-sink ties in with what EsaT was saying (closed proprietary standard monitors that Nvidea use^ans added premium).

cheers
 
Slap said:
Thanks fo info Vexr.
That monitor would have done the trick (amazing bang for buck). Unfortunately my gpu supports only G-sink. What you say about paying premium on G-sink ties in with what EsaT was saying (closed proprietary standard monitors that Nvidea use^ans added premium).

cheers
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Aye, that monitor looks to be in a league of its own price wise (on OCUK at least).

Some discussion of it with GSync has been had here: https://forums.geforce.com/default/...-gsync-works-only-on-monitor-restart-417-71-/

It sounds pretty sketchy for GSync right now.

I suppose a painful way of finding a suitable GSync-compatible FreeSync monitor is to trawl though this:

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet...SRGswWpJzVRuK_4zMvphRbh19k/edit#gid=706438575

Not easy considering it doesn't list resolution/screen size.
 
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