Monitor quality control...is it actually getting worse? (Aorus rant)

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Ok, so I'm now on my second Aorus FI27Q-X...and it still isn't right!

The first one arrived, and had two stuck pixels - one green, in the very far left corner; and one red, a few inches from the top right. To be fair, backlight bleed was actually very low.

Naturally, I sent it back. The monitor is supposed to come with a zero stuck pixel guarantee. Quite honestly, I've never had more than one stuck pixel right out of the box - even on far cheaper monitors. So, for £600+ (and a guarantee of no stuck pixels) it should be perfect. I was actually quite surprised - as I figured no company would attach that kind of guarantee to something unless they were pretty confident in their product (how naive of me!).

Re-ordered a new one (annoyingly, the monitor had gone up a further £28 in the mean time), and the new one - as well as having more bleed - still has a single stuck red sub-pixel. It only shows up on blue and black screens in dead pixels tests...although it's still visible on some other colours when using the monitor normally.

Looking at reddit (granted, never the best idea ), there seem to be lots of comments from people getting 3+ stuck pixels on this monitor. With the general consensus being that there seems to be little in the way of QC from Gigabyte (or Sharp, if you want to blame the panel manufacturer).

At this point, I have no idea what to do. I've tried the usual stuck pixel videos on YouTube, JScreenFix, etc - but they've made no difference (do these ever work?).

As far as I'm concerned, I've paid for a monitor that shouldn't have any stuck pixels...but I'm getting increasingly tired of packing up/unpacking monitors. I don't especially want to take this up with Gigabyte while I'm still within my 30 days - as I'm worried they might just fob me off with a refurb, or something. That said, I have absolutely no faith at this stage that I'll get a decent sample, if I order a third.

What are other peoples' experiences with Gigabyte/Aorus monitors? Even though it has no sRGB clamp (which will probably annoy me), I'm beginning to wonder if I should try ordering the Alienware AW2721D instead. Or is Dell's QC terrible these days too? The AW2721D is also (supposedly) guranteed to have no stuck pixels...but perhaps that's meaningless, given my experiences with the FI27Q-X. I'd kind of ruled out the 27" Odyssey G7 (mainly just because of the curve, and I tend to prefer IPS to VA), but how do those fare QC wise?

Any suggestions welcome! Although I kind of have a feeling maybe all gaming monitors are now in an even worse state than when I last bought one...

 

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Only on second?
You've got long way to go:
ROG Swift PG32UQX mini LED DisplayHDR™ 1400 4k

I don't know if that makes me feel better or worse! Probably worse, given I think the Alienware I was looking at is AU Optronics...

Its normal. It's using a cheap Sharp panel with awful bgr subpixel layout.

I got one with multiple dust (~5 big (easily visible) and a few smaller spots) spots inside the panel. Because of bgr i dont tested more.

I got 6 PG32UQX for 3500 Euro and 3 G9 Neo for 2200 Euro. Nearly all (expect 1 PG32UQX, but maybe i didnt searched enough after i spotted a subpixel failure ) with dust inside the panel and in addition in some cases pixel failures. In one case (G9 Neo) scratch in polarisation film + white spot.

If you want monitors with less failures, buy the AW3821DW or X34GS (LG panels). I have both. Both without any failures but standard picture quality. Nothing special (hdr/fald).

God, and here was me whining about my luck

So, would you say it's best to just suck it up? I can live with BGR, to be honest...don't get me wrong, it's definitely sub-optimal - but it's not a complete dealbreaker (at least for me). I'm already planning to stick an LG 48" C1 OLED next to it...so, I think 27" would be more the size I'd be looking for. I definitely couldn't fit in an ultrawide in, sadly. Maybe I could just about fit a 32" (at a pinch). Lower refresh rate...but do you think a LG 32GP850 would be any better QC-wise (being an LG panel)?

 

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I did wonder if I was misremembering the A2712D being AUO - of course, you're right about it being LG!

I've definitely had a lot of bleed with LG panels in the past (Asus PG348Q, etc). But I'd definitely take that over dead/stuck pixels and dust, etc. I guess that means the Alienware might be worth a shot...

I had actually wondered about the XG27AQM (I almost thought about mentioning it in my first post...but it's so new, I wondered if anyone would've tried it yet!). Shame there's no rainforest stock And the sRGB mode sounds pretty bad (although the Alienware doesn't even have one at all!).

The annoying thing is, my first FI27Q-X was really good in terms of bleed. But yeah, this second one is definitely no beauty

XB323QK looks interesting, but might just be a bit expensive. Was trying to keep below £700, ideally. Would probably consider the PG279QM if I were to raise the budget - and I could ever find it in stock. I think that's the same panel as the XG27AQM? Just with a G-Sync module; 'only' 240Hz refresh rate; and a basically ideal sRGB mode.

 

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@PCM2 I'd also like to say I think your reviews are far and away the best online. While I also usually look at TFTCental, RTINGS, Hardware Unboxed, etc, I think your reviews (especially with the accompanying videos) are by far the most thorough and detailed.

To be honest, I mainly bought the FI27Q-X on the strength of your review - and even though I'll continue to complain endlessly about the quality control I think it's a really excellent monitor for the price, otherwise. Were it not for the QC issues, I'd 100% be keeping it. Even as things stand, I'm kind of undecided (partly because I'm now wondering if anything else will be much better).

I completely agree, though, that observations about quality control are far beyond the scope of any review. You'd have to have reasonable volume of any SKU (ideally not review samples), for it to be in any way useful data. Which is obviously completely unfeasible!

@lugerfield Some of those pictures of defects you posted are truly terrible! And on such expensive monitors too I'm now realizing how much more annoying dust under the screen would be than dead/stuck pixels. So, if I do have one more roll of the dice, I think it'll have to be a LG panel. Probably leaning towards trying a AW2721D. As an aside, I am actually about to switch to a 3080 TI - so, the AW2721D's G-Sync module would be of some benefit now. I'll keep my FI27Q-X in the meantime, though - just in case the Alienware is even worse

I think the grainy coating might be kind of a dealbreaker on the XG27AQM, sadly. Plus, playing the AUO dust lottery - as well as the dead/stuck pixel lottery - seems like something I could well do without!

 

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The AW2721D has a fan. For such a standard monitor without any special features like fald its for me a big disadvantage

I guess it's more a case of picking my poison, at this point The fan definitely sucks - and doesn't seem very necessary - but I'd probably accept it, if the Alienware has no pixel or dust issues (and assuming BLB is still average-ish). In reality, the lack of an sRGB clamp will probably annoy me more than the fan...

Please consider you will need for 240 hz <=4.16 ms. No ips monitor is delivering it. I would buy a normal LG 27" 144 hz nano ips variant like the lg 27gp850.

Yeah, I did think some of these 240Hz IPSs were a bit borderline. I was actually looking at the 27GP850 when Hardware Unboxed first reviewed it. It was my original top choice - but it was never released in the UK (for whatever reason). It's now really expensive to import (with Customs on top) and would probably be near-impossible to return, if I had issues (which I probably would ). So, I think that's out

The 32GP850 is available over here. Although like I said, 32" is a bit bigger than I'd ideally like. Plus, I think I'd prefer 27" for 1440P, in terms of PPI. Pretty sure the response times were a touch worse on the 32" version (when compared to the 27"), too.

I did also consider the MSI MAG274QRF-QD, which is 165Hz, as another alternative. But the gamut on that is super-wide (with no sRGB clamp), and I think the gamma seemed quite off.

PG279QM with AUO panel:

On the face of it (ignoring QC issues), this is pretty much the perfect monitor for me. Although since it's the same panel as the XG27AQM, I imagine the coating is also quite grainy? That said, it's never in stock in the UK I've seen it literally twice (and both times it sold out very fast). And it's nearly £150 more than the AW2721D (which is already more than the FI27Q-X).

 

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I wouldnt buy a 93 ppi monitor. It looks fuzzy. 109 ppi is the absolute minimum for good viewing expierience.

These are kind of my thoughts, really.

The XG27AQM (so the PG279QM) is not as grainy as the PG32UQX, it's much grainier than LG's coating. It definitely disturbing me, who is using LG panel monitors permanently since years. Both are using the coating of the XB273UGS.

Yeah, this sounds like it might well be a dealbreaker Anything obviously grainy is a bit of a no-no for me.

I have worked out I can just about fit a 34" ultrawide. Sadly, the X34GS is out of stock everywhere - and it's listed at over £1000 (out of stock) on Rainforest.

Any thoughts on the LG 34GN850? More than I wanted to spend...but that's gettable for £779-799-ish.

 

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The 34GN850 is using an older revision of the UW6 panel which is used for the X34GS. But nealy the same response times. Color tints on the 34GN850 are usually more pronounced. I don't know how much it will bother you.

I guess I don't either

The Asus XG349C is also out of stock on Rainforest (and a lot more expensive than even X34GS in most places). UK really seems to suck for UW monitor availability right now! The BenQ is gettable...but £850 is a lot, given the panel is an unknown.

I guess I'll have to have a further think. Probably a toss up between the AW2721D, 34GN850 or just giving up on this monitor hell - and sticking with my FI27Q-X

I will keep an eye on that Acer link in the meantime I can see one place that has it on preorder @£799. But it's apparently been overdue since late June...so, probably not coming any time soon!

 

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Maybe i would wait for the LG 34GP850.

Haha given LG don't seem particularly bothered about releasing the 27GP850 here - and even the 32GP850 is only officially being stocked by OCUK and one other place - I wonder if we'll even ever get the 34GP850 in the UK

Im nearly about to skip the lottery.

After 6 PG32UQX and 3 G9 Neo im really exhausted.

I'm really not surprised! I'm completely over all of this - and I'm 'only' on my second monitor. Buying a monitor should be fun...but it's rapidly becoming a serious chore.

The crazy thing is, I don't think I'm even being especially fussy. I'm prepared to accept average uniformity and average to moderate BLB. All I'm really asking for, is no dead or stuck pixels - on a device guaranteed not to have any pixel failures If I was really being fussy, I'd be sending all of these monitors back for BLB alone. I still have some older IPS monitors (granted, 60Hz) bought ages ago, with little to no BLB - so, it's clearly perfectly possible.

I think 90 % are crap. It's very unlikely it will drop a good one. So much trash in a row.

I really think the entire sector is in a terrible place, at least in terms of QC. Sadly, I don't think enough people care - which is why none of these companies/panel manufacturers see the need to try any harder. There might be (what they consider) a more demanding niche, who will RMA multiple times - but replacing their screens over and over, will cost a fraction of actually building things to a higher standard. And a lot of people who do even RMA a few times, will probably eventually tire and give up (as both of us are pretty close to doing).

I'll still try one more monitor (from a different brand)...and just keep whatever is best. Or rather, whatever is least bad It's ridiculous that that's what it's come to...but I really don't want to spend the next three months boxing/unboxing monitors, in hope of finding a unicorn.

 

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I returned a FV43U a few weeks back. Absolute crap.

I've returned 4 Fi27q-x for multiple stuck pixels mostly green.

That really sucks. I guess it's not just me. I had no idea how bad things were on the QC side with Aorus when I placed an order for my first one. Regret not doing more a bit more research into users who'd actually purchased the monitor at retail. I mainly just looked at reviews

The PG279QM also has issues but with lots of stuck color sub pixels, 2 units so far. No issues with LG panels ever always AUO and now sharp. Panel QC is terrible from AUO tempted to give up as I know my next PG279QM will have pixel issues.
I also found the Pg279QM very grainy as heavy on the coating, ruined the overwise great sRGB toggle and wide gamuts.

This is also really disappointing to hear. The excellent sRGB mode would be a massive selling point for me...and at least on the face of it, it ticks almost all the boxes I'd want (with the exception of stuff like FALD, which would obviously put it in a diffferent price bracket altogther). It's fair chunk more expensive than the FI27Q-X...but I'd probably reluctantly accept that, if the QC was up to scratch. Sad to see, it almost certainly isn't.

The use of heavy coating is probably the bin lid on it, for me. Which is a pity.

I'm going to order an AW2721D tonight, and will report back. No sRGB mode, and Dell don't sound as though they're especially interested in adding one via firmware. I see the MAG274QRF-QD now has an sRGB mode via a firmware update. But then, that's a AUO panel - and I think I'd rather stick to LG this time. Maybe I'll get lucky, and Nvidia will go on to add an sRGB clamp at driver-level (like AMD).

Monitor quality still in the toilet?

Eizo need to enter the market and show how it’s done.

I must admit, I've only ever had one Eizo monitor (EV2736W). Not a gaming monitor by any stretch, but it probably had the best QC of any IPS-type monitor I've ever owned. BLB was incredibly low/basically non-existent.

 

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Nvidia will not offer rgb mode. The g-sync monitors have far as i know only one color range (the full range, the panel is offering) which is leading to oversaturated srgb colors.

Well, there goes that dream!

The "normal" non gaming Eizo monitors are often using LG panels. No wonder why qc is pretty good .

The EV2736W (I still actually have it connected to an old system), uses a Samsung PLS panel, perhaps surprisingly. I actually had a couple of other PLS panels in other Samsung monitors. Maybe just a lucky streak, but all seemed well above average in terms of BLB. Although the Eizo was definitely best.

 

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Right there were some Eizo mid range monitors with Samsung PLS. Did you look for dust inside the panel/below the ag coating? Maybe its overclockable to 100-120 hz. Some Korean Monitors are overclockable with Samsung PLS panels .

I didn't use the Eizo test tool But if there was dust...I didn't notice it. The whole screen is covered in external dust now

I never tried overclocking it. I don't use the system for gaming...I think it has like an Nvidia 730 GT in there

 

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Like I said, you are in-tune with your own OCD tendencies and clueless about what should or can be included in reviews. I've been very polite and respectful with you this far, other contributors to this thread have understandably stayed quiet for a bit. Because they aren't getting anything out of it now. This thread should probably be closed, you don't deserve an answer to those questions with the lack of respect and closed-mindedness you've shown.

Really sorry, I think I must've read past this earlier.

I do feel bad that I've (inadvertently) created a bit of a monster starting this thread It really wasn't my intention.

I don't mind if any mods want to shut this down now. I think its probably outstayed its welcome. In amidst the chaos, I have had some useful feedback So, fingers crossed my next monitor will fare better better in terms of dead/stuck pixels.

And if it doesn't, I'll just have to get over it. First world problems, as they say...

 

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That's alright, I know you didn't intend for this thread to spiral in the way it has. It was a bit entertaining at first I suppose, but it has long since run its course.

Ironically, I did actually consider registering and making a thread on your forum - but in my infinite wisdom, posted here instead

I look forward to your thoughts on that. As you're sensitive to screen surface texture, you may well really like that one. It's very good in that respect and gives a strong all-round performance. I know somebody posted about it on my own forum after trying dozens of other displays and finally decided the Dell was "the one" for them. Hopefully it is for you as well.

Thanks so much! I will definitely post some thoughts (although maybe best if I move those to your board this time!). I think it definitely seems to have most of what I want on paper. It's always a trade off with these things...and none of the 1440P 240Hz screens have every feature/trait I'd ideally want. But fingers crossed this one is a keeper.

Back in 2012 I had to return two Dell U2312HM before my 3rd was half decent. It's always been like this, no?

I remember having one of those. Thankfully, my first sample had no dead/stuck pixels. BLB was pretty bad, though. I did end up keeping it...IPS screens with input lag that low were really unusual back then. And I needed a small-ish rotatable screen for retro games.

 

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Fingers crossed for you. Hopefully your unit will be a good one so you don't need to try your luck with 100 others.

I've been slightly worried about even ordering a third monitor from Rainforest (although thankfully, I do order a lot and don't normally return much). I'm sure they'd be sending the heavies over if I even got to five!

I'm still using that 3rd half-decent one on one of my rigs

The first two got returned not for stuck pixels but because the corners and edges shone with the full power of the sun... 3rd unit was a lot better in that regard (BLB).

I seem to remember they were quite cheap, tho! And Dell's returns policy back then was awesome. No quibble swaps with free collection and delivery. Not sure if they still do that.

I probably should have kept mine, to be honest. After this whole debacle is sorted, I'm actually also in the market for a rotatable 1080P 24-27" screen for my arcade stuff. I mainly use BVM CRTS these days, but I also need something widescreen (that ideally goes higher than 720P/1080i).

Most of the decent 1080P screens I'm seeing don't seem to have rotatable stands...so, that's another £90+ just for a decent stand

You're right - I'm pretty sure the U2312HM was a really good price. I have vague memories of paying around £120-125 for mine (edit: ok, it was actually £185. My memory clearly sucks!). I'll probably end up spending most of that just on a stand!

I guess I'll find out soon enough what Dell's return policy is like Well, hopefully not! I think it's supposedly still decent for their higher-end screens/Alienware models (at least in the UK). But I imagine it would be a lot worse for anything priced like the U2312HM now.

 

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I won't comment on the back and fourth, I will say that the dead/stuck pixel issues with Sharp, AUO is awful. I've had lots of FI27Q-X units that have this problem and the PG279QM too which was even worse, the replacement unit has also gone back due to Green pixels, loads of them like a starlight effect, it's horrid. I will prob go back to the AW2721D which due to a lack of sRGB mode which makes it the weakest of the 240hz displays for me, it at least has been clean from these issues from the units I've owned and used. AUO panels have always been the worst in my opinion, I've never had a unit without dead pixels and I've owned a lot of displays and had a lot on loan and at work.
It’s a shame because the FI27Q-X was a great display and the PG279QM has perfect features for my use.

Thanks so much - that's really helpful feedback Makes feel like I've (hopefully) made the right choice ordering the AW2712D - even though I totally agree re the lack of an sRGB mode. Quite what Dell were thinking there, is anyone's guess (I've seen lots of people virtually begging Dell for a firmware update...so I have no idea why they remain so intransigent). They seem to claim adding an sRGB mode would impact FreeSync Premium Pro requirements on other monitors (like the S2721DGF), which already sounds like a bit of a stretch. But the AW2721D makes no mention of 'official' Freesync support in its specs, anyway.

Sucks that so many (potentially) great monitors seem so totally hamstrung by QC issues The PG279QM has a basically perfect feature set for my uses too. If the general consensus in this thread had been that the QC on that was a big improvement over the FI27Q-X, I'd almost certainly have found the extra cash and gone for it. But if anything, it almost sounds even worse!

The Odyssey G7 also seems to have had more than its fair share of issues...

 

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I’ve never known Dell to add an sRGB mode to displays that have needed it. I personally think they can’t be bothered is what it comes down to. The panel it’s self is good, has the cleanest picture, the lack of grain really makes other monitors look hazy in comparison. Some users report visible left side backlight visibility, my previous unit had this although minor. I’ve not had dead/stuck pixels on an LG panel although they can happen I feel LG just has better QC than AUO and others. I also like Innolux panels for their QC.

The G7 I’ve not known many issues, I certainly don’t buy that 15 units had pixel defects that is more than likely OCD issues but I wouldn’t rule it out completely. It wouldn’t surprise me from AUO though. Out of 4 g7’s I’ve experienced only one had a single dead pixel.

I'm sure you're right. I'm also pretty skeptical sRGB modes couldn't (fairly easily) be added if Dell had the desire. It's frustrating, because it's not something like re-working overdrive modes - that would presumably require a lot of very fine-tuning. As requests go, it feels like a pretty basic ask. Its abscence has also been flagged when it was was reviewed by TFTCentral, Rtings, Hardware Unboxed, etc...and the AW2721D even gets specifically name-checked in @PCM2's 'Taming the Wide Gamut...' article. I'm sure Dell have lost some sales as a result (when most of the 1440P 240Hz competition have sRGB modes of some description)...but perhaps Dell are banking on the fact the vast majority of potential buyers simply won't care or notice? Oh well...

The above aside...it really does sound great for my needs! The coating really sounds just what I'm after - as well as better QC, with (hopefully) no dead/stuck pixels this time! I've never owned an Innolux panel before - so that's also interesting to know for future reference.

To be honest, I've only quite casually followed the G7 feedback. It was always a screen I found interesting (especially when it first launched), but I never felt confident I could get over the curve or its VA-ness Granted, I've only ever had one VA panel before (so not really a fair sample) - but I really didn't get on with it. Then again, it was an AUO panel

Looking back, though, it sounds like quite a lot of the issues with the G7 were (generally) more firmware than QC-related.

 

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Why are you so interested in a srgb mode?

For Windows you can cut down the color space via icc profile.

A huge amount of applications aren't icc-aware, though - including games (which let's face it, are probably the main reason anyone would buy a 1440P 240Hz monitor in the first place).

So, if you're looking to clamp to sRGB across all applications, you basically only have three options: buy/use a monitor with an sRGB mode; use only AMD GPUs (which allow you to clamp to sRGB at driver-level); or, buy a monitor with a hardware LUT, and calibrate it yourself. Although a hardware LUT seems like a pretty rare feature on gaming-orientated displays, at least from what I've seen.

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My fav aspect of the AW2721D has always been the screen presentation. The combination of slim bezels, coating with a super smooth finish really makes games like Red Dead 2 for example stand out, you can really see into the image so much better think a clean window vs one that is slightly hazy. I've always felt this adds to the text clarity too, finer lines are sharper and almost appear higher resolution than it actually is unlike say the G7 or even the PG279QM. The PG279QM is for me the perfect monitor in terms of complete features but is let down by QC and while the PG279QM isn't the worst coating out there, I could do with it being a bit cleaner. I made some impressions of it over at PCM. My comments on the AW2721D have been mixed mainly due to lack of standard gamut support though. I will say that the standard mode isn't terrible like say the S2721DGF for oversaturation I'd call it tastefully tuned and wooden, earth shades are still natural with most of the top-end extensions coming from the reds but again it doesn't go too far into overly tanned skin. I'd rather this tuning than say having full aRGB which makes trees, grass look like an acid trip.

I do overall prefer VA-type panels but for monitors, I feel IPS panels get more love from manufacturers as outside of the G7 panels have rarely evolved.

I must go and check out your impressions over at PCM, as this is all super-helpful. I know exactly what you mean re the acid trip grass and foliage So, I'm glad to hear the tuning isn't that oversaturated! Despite ordering my AW2721D Prime, I don't think mine is due until more like 13th - so will be a few more days yet. Even though I've never used the PG279QM, it really does look awesome in terms of features - but at this point, I'm so fed up with QC issues, I feel like I'm definitely making the right call (even if there are some inevitable trade offs). The fact that the AW2721D's coating is so much lighter, is definitely a massive bonus (also reminds me I really need to get around to Red Dead 2 ).

I do still need to give VA another run out at some point. The only VA I had was a Z35P...which I think had quite a low contast ratio (compared to the best VA panels). Viewing angles were also pretty bad, even relative to other VAs, from what I've heard...so probably a pretty bad one to use as a barometer.

 

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I know its only for desktop applications . But awareness about incorrect colors in games are not very common.
For me it looks not really bad if some colors are oversaturated.

I think it varies depending on the game. I think the oversaturated colours can make more subdued/atmospheric games look too cartoony. Equally, games that already have slightly over-hyped colours - can sometimes end up with 'compounded oversaturation', if played on a wide gamut monitor (with no clamp).

That said, having just read/watched @PCM2's article/video on the 'novideo_srgb' tool, I'm less concerned by this whole issue. For me, this is a real game-changer

I can't imagine why you get not disturbed by bgr, it's for me together with qc and bad response times (which are not suitable for 240 hz) the biggest disadvantage of the X27Q-X.

Like I said, BGR definitely isn't ideal. But I'd have been more than happy to live with it - even though, if I like the AW2721D (and the QC is there), I now won't have to But you really can't have it all at this price point...whether you go FI27Q-X, PG27QM, AW2721D, G7, etc, you'll be making some trade offs.

I don't find the fringing from BGR terribly distracting at 27" 1440P. I'm sure at a lower resolution/PPI, it would annoy me a lot more. I mean, even the 48" C1 uses a WBGR subpixel layout - so you get fringing on those even at chroma 4:4:4. Likewise, the 55" B7 I have connected to another system (WRGB layout) also has fringing at chroma 4:4:4. But the other advantages of OLED more than make up for this, for me.

I was planning to have the FI27Q-X and 48" C1 connected to the same PC....so, from a ClearType point of view, having two BGR screens (albeit one WBGR) might actually have made more sense!

 

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Having real trouble getting a AW2721D now (maybe I should add lack of availability to my 'rant', as well as QC issues?). Long story short, everyone who says they have stock, actually doesn't. So, I'm back to considering other options again...

I would reccomened AW3821DW or Acer X34GS. Both excellent monitors if you got a good panel .

I can (at least for the moment) get the X34GS now. Do you have any idea if the overdrive mode gets greyed out (like some other Acer models) when using G-Sync/Freeysnc? Likewise, can you adjust overdrive when using the sRGB mode?

Also, is there a good overdrive mode for the entire refresh range?

LG 34GN850 is a shade cheaper, but the X34GS might be tempting, depending on the above. The 34GP950G has just appeared for pre-order...but the price is sadly just too high

 

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On X34GS the overdrive mode is changeable while using freesync/g-sync compatible aka adaptive sync. In srgb mode, among the color menu, you can change overdrive settings as well.

The overdrive mode normal is overshooting below 100 hz. It's common for most freesync monitors. I use this monitor only for high refresh games.

I think the 34GN850 has a slower older panel revision. I wouldn't buy it.

The G model will have fans. The 34GN950 will (very likely) making awful noises like 38GL950G.

Thanks - that's helpful! I know you said you only use it for high refresh games...but any thoughts on what overdrive 'off' is like for under 100Hz gaming?

You're right - the 34GN850 uses a panel one generation older. Although it sounds as though the 'fast' overdrive mode (at least according to Rtings and Hardware Unboxed) on the LG is pretty good across the entire refresh range. That said the 34GN850 tops out at 160Hz (compared to 180Hz on the X34GS). So, the range is a bit smaller, anyway.

Yeah, I did figure the 34GP950G would have fans. G-Sync ultimate, though - so, that's pretty nice. Pre-order price has now dropped...but it's nearly £520 more than the 34GN850! And isn't exactly miles better according to Rtings - so it looks way overpriced.