More idiocy from Ian Blair

AJUK

AJUK

AJUK

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AJUK said:
The fool now believes that it is safe to leave your front door open because burglary is apparently so rare. How on earth this pillock ever got to his position, I wouldn't trust him to get my order right in Burger King, let alone run the country's top police service.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/news.html?in_article_id=401540&in_page_id=1770

He's got to go to save him from further embarassment.
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How many burglaries are there in a given year?
 
I don't remember previous police chiefs being so outspoken, it seems he has something to tell us every 5 minutes. I'd rather he kept his head down and only came out when he had somthing really posative to tell us, rather than saying any old thing and totally destroying the credability of police who do a good job for this country.
 
AJUK said:
Read the article!
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I'd love to, but my work firewall has blockde it - under the category 'Defamatory'. Quite amusing really ;)

756,000 according to the Government.
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Hmmm........and we have some 35m households, so an average household would be burgled once every 50 years.

He's got a point......
 
Visage said:
I'd love to, but my work firewall has blockde it - under the category 'Defamatory'. Quite amusing really ;)



Hmmm........and we have some 35m households, so an average household would be burgled once every 50 years.

He's got a point......
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LOL @ your firewall settings. :D

The thing is, I can guarantee that that once in every 50 years event will occur on exactly the same day that you decided to leave your front door open. ;)
 
A Met spokesman said: 'It is inconceivable that anyone would recommend leaving windows and doors open.
'Our policy has always been that you should make sure your property is as secure as possible.'
And last night Damian Hockney of the Metropolitan Police Authority said the comments from his commissioner were 'truly extraordinary'.
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They must squirm every time he opens his mouth...
 
AJUK said:
LOL @ your firewall settings. :D

The thing is, I can guarantee that that once in every 50 years event will occur on exactly the same day that you decided to leave your front door open. ;)
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Yup - sods law, innit?

But taking his words at face value, leaving ones door unlocked would only encourage burglary if an oppurtunist theif tried the handle. How often does that happen?

TBH it sounds like a fairly pointless story, designed to rabble-rouse the DM's core leadership. If you're the sort of person who gets wound up by this sort of thing you'll lap it up. If you're not you'll shrug your shoulders and not be bothered by scaremongering.
 
Discussing the impact of the Safer Neighbourhood Teams on crime and residents' fears of being attacked, he gave the example of a tower block in Haringey, North London.

He compared the patrols to 'the sheriff' upholding the law on his patch.

Sir Ian said two officers had 'adopted' the 19-storey building and were regularly patrolling its corridors.

He said: 'How long is it since police patrolled the corridors of a tower block?

'It's as if, when the slums they replaced were flattened, the police stopped patrolling.

'People are opening their doors, leaving their doors open now, or leaving them unlocked, certainly, in a way they haven't done for 25 years.'
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So, he was probably referring to his example when he was talking about doors being left unlocked.....

Is it maybe possible that this is just his quote getting taken out of context then?
 
i read the bbc article as it being shown that people are actually doing it, not that hes recommending it.
 
JRS said:
Is it maybe possible that this is just his quote getting taken out of context then?
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I refuse the beleive that the Daily Mail would take a quote out of context in order to stir up indignant outrage. Its just so out of character for them.
 
Visage said:
I refuse the beleive that the Daily Mail would take a quote out of context in order to stir up indignant outrage. Its just so out of character for them.
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You're right. What was I thinking?



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And before anyone takes that as a bash against the Mail, allow to to say this:

Yes, it's a bash against the Mail.

But it's okay - I'm yet to find a newspaper that doesn't annoy me in some way. The Telegraph comes closest, but only on Saturdays so I can read the Motoring section.....
 
Visage said:
I refuse the beleive that the Daily Mail would take a quote out of context in order to stir up indignant outrage. Its just so out of character for them.
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It wouldn't be such a big story save the fact that Blair's "got previous, guv"

February 2005 With street crime rising, Sir Ian Blair announces crackdown on dinner-party drug scene

July Declares Met “gold standard” for anti-terrorism hours before 7/7 bombings. Later says shooting of Jean Charles de Menezes directly linked to anti-terrorist operation

November Accused of politicising police in lobbying MPs for anti-terrorism Bill

January 2006 Forced to apologise after saying he could not understand why the Soham murders were such a big story (he actually said that it was because the girls were white it was such a big story) - my words in brackets

March Apologises again after admitting taping phone call to the Attorney-General, and five other calls, without consent

June Another apology for Forest Gate anti-terror raid in which man was shot, no evidence of terrorism found
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http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/5269778.stm
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,2-2321643,00.html
 
AJUK said:
It wouldn't be such a big story save the fact that Blair's "got previous, guv"
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Absolutely. He's a buffoon.

It just seems obvious to me that stories like this, far from adding to the criticism of Blair, merely dilute the very strong criticism he's rightfully faced. It makes it look less like a collection of valid criticisms and more like a witchunt, with the 'hunters' cobbling together anything they can.
 
I would never leave my door unlocked as there is a condition in most home insurance polocies that there must be proof of 'force entry'. If the bugular just walks on in, then your insurance ain't gonna pay up!
 
As someone who has never been the victim of crime I could be a bit out of order... But I lived in London for 18 months and never had a problem. Lived in Birmingham for 3 years and never had a problem.

I read it as a positive step that people in a place that I would have had the preconception of as a dangerous place are now starting to act as a community. If you live in a community that hides behind locked doors and doesn't talk you breed mis-trust and vulnerability that makes burglary easy. If you live in a community that looks out for each other and generally knows whats happening in it's area then it makes anti-social behaviour a lot harder to thrive. The quote reads to me like the police presence is encouraging openess among the residence not that people are leaving the house with all the windows and doors open with a note pinned to it saying 'back in 2 hours'.

Our doors are often open when we are in so next door or the familly can pop round and say hi. We still lock up at night and when we are out of the house though!!

He does have a habit of making a point that is pretty valid but in a way that comes accross really badly!
 
Samtheman1k said:
I would never leave my door unlocked as there is a condition in most home insurance polocies that there must be proof of 'force entry'. If the bugular just walks on in, then your insurance ain't gonna pay up!
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Well, on the back of the comments from such an emminent police officer I am expecting my home insurance premium to drop significantly next year. It won't, of course.
 
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