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There is no way they would let us join in my life time i think, and if they did, the exit criteria would be much much higher and less unilateral, rather than a 50.1% referendum (i am not even sure the last time required a Ref in the first place, it was just done for the public as they were no legally obliged to follow it through if they chose not to), they might require like a 70%. Who wants someone to come and go as they pleased in something as important as this, it would disrupt the EU massively in negative way.
correct me if i am wrong... but we not the leave poster boys demanding that IF the referendum was within a few percent that it was only fair that another referendum be carried out after a short time.

now when they were saying that they were of course assuming remain would win......... but it is pretty 2 faced hypocritical to not stand by that same argument now the shoe is on the other foot.......
 
It blows my mind that anyone thinks this is positive tbh...

I get you have to live with the circumstances you find yourself in but by that age I had 2 kids, on my second house and staring down a divorce... and it's not like I'm a boomer, mid 40s now.

I can't begin to imagine living at home not being able to make all my own decisions/have 100% freedom until that age. It's got to do stuff to your brain.

An annex or something I sort of get but a room in a house at 29 I find weird and the fact it's the only choice for many is a symptom of a broken system tbh.
There is no right answer. I have colleagues who are 27 still living at home, and they will be laughing their way to the estate agents when the "big crash" happens and buying a mega property (rather than stepping up) with a sizeable deposit.
 
correct me if i am wrong... but we not the leave poster boys demanding that IF the referendum was within a few percent that it was only fair that another referendum be carried out after a short time.

now when they were saying that they were of course assuming remain would win......... but it is pretty 2 faced hypocritical to not stand by that same argument now the shoe is on the other foot.......

This isn't a Brexit thread but my observation is that the right wing, in Brexit, UK, or the US political spectrum, the word hypocrisy is not in their vocabulary.
 
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We opened a Childrens ISA for my eldest daughter shortly after she was born, We've been paying a direct debit into every month since. Shes now 6 and got nearly 4k saved.

We did the same for our youngest, shes 3 and got a good amount put away too.
 
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We opened a Childrens ISA for my eldest daughter shortly after she was born, We've been paying a direct debit into every month since. Shes now 6 and got nearly 4k saved.

We did the same for our youngest, shes 3 and got a good amount put away too.
i am at the point now where i am contemplating what to do.... i dont really want my 18 year old son having access to £20k+ but the way we are going he will (£300 a month over 18 years - christ that is pushing 70k + what ever interest is added!!!) .

we will do our best to keep his head on straight but i know what i was like at 18!... The money we are saving is to be his... but (and yes its controlling) but we want him to use it either for his education or for him getting on the property ladder.

not to booze it all up in Benidorm or buy a bonkers car... so at some point i think we will have to do something else with the money we save him
 
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i am at the point now where i am contemplating what to do.... i dont really want my 18 year old son having access to £20k+ but the way we are going he will.

we will do our best to keep his head on straight but i know what i was like at 18!... The money we are saving is to be his... but (and yes its controlling) but we want him to use it either for his education or for him getting on the property ladder.

not to booze it all up in Benidorm or buy a bonkers car... so at some point i think we will have to do something else with the money we save him

You just don't tell him of its existence, best that way than he blows it on booze and drugs.

If his life changes down the line and he actually needs to buy a house, then you tell him. It will be a bonus into his deposit and LTV.
 
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It blows my mind that anyone thinks this is positive tbh...

I get you have to live with the circumstances you find yourself in but by that age I had 2 kids, on my second house and staring down a divorce... and it's not like I'm a boomer, mid 40s now.

I can't begin to imagine living at home not being able to make all my own decisions/have 100% freedom until that age. It's got to do stuff to your brain.

An annex or something I sort of get but a room in a house at 29 I find weird and the fact it's the only choice for many is a symptom of a broken system tbh.

It's only alien to our culture, there are a lot of multi generational households in other cultures that work just fine.

I'm now 39, single, no kids (never wanted them) and my Mom/Step Dad live with me. I'm one of the millions of unpaid carers looking after them. We all get a long, they are now the ones paying me board.
 
You just don't tell him of its existence, best that way than he blows it on booze and drugs.

If his life changes down the line and he actually needs to buy a house, then you tell him. It will be a bonus into his deposit and LTV.
That’s our plan with ours. We have a Junior S&S ISA. It is of course in their name and they may be able to find out somehow that they have this account. We intend to tell them about it when there is a big life event like buying a house etc.
 
We opened a Childrens ISA for my eldest daughter shortly after she was born, We've been paying a direct debit into every month since. Shes now 6 and got nearly 4k saved.

We did the same for our youngest, shes 3 and got a good amount put away too.

Well I know where to come when I need to borrow a few quid!
 
i am at the point now where i am contemplating what to do.... i dont really want my 18 year old son having access to £20k+ but the way we are going he will (£300 a month over 18 years - christ that is pushing 70k + what ever interest is added!!!) .

we will do our best to keep his head on straight but i know what i was like at 18!... The money we are saving is to be his... but (and yes its controlling) but we want him to use it either for his education or for him getting on the property ladder.

not to booze it all up in Benidorm or buy a bonkers car... so at some point i think we will have to do something else with the money we save him

If you are investing for your son over 18 years then you should put that into stocks not cash.

70k in 18 years will buy you a night out, a kebab and a taxi home.
 
i am at the point now where i am contemplating what to do.... i dont really want my 18 year old son having access to £20k+ but the way we are going he will (£300 a month over 18 years - christ that is pushing 70k + what ever interest is added!!!) .

we will do our best to keep his head on straight but i know what i was like at 18!... The money we are saving is to be his... but (and yes its controlling) but we want him to use it either for his education or for him getting on the property ladder.

not to booze it all up in Benidorm or buy a bonkers car... so at some point i think we will have to do something else with the money we save him

That’s our plan with ours. We have a Junior S&S ISA. It is of course in their name and they may be able to find out somehow that they have this account. We intend to tell them about it when there is a big life event like buying a house etc.

Junior SIPP is also a good option. £300 a month means about £100k by the time they turn 18 (assuming 5% inflation-adjusted growth), then only that growing for another 35-40 years means they'll likely be set for retirement and can't access this earlier.

A combination of Junior SIPP and S&S JISA could be a good way to set them up for a good start and finish, they'll only need to handle the middle!
 
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i am at the point now where i am contemplating what to do.... i dont really want my 18 year old son having access to £20k+ but the way we are going he will (£300 a month over 18 years - christ that is pushing 70k + what ever interest is added!!!) .

we will do our best to keep his head on straight but i know what i was like at 18!... The money we are saving is to be his... but (and yes its controlling) but we want him to use it either for his education or for him getting on the property ladder.

not to booze it all up in Benidorm or buy a bonkers car... so at some point i think we will have to do something else with the money we save him

You just don't tell him of its existence, best that way than he blows it on booze and drugs.

If his life changes down the line and he actually needs to buy a house, then you tell him. It will be a bonus into his deposit and LTV.
I was terrible, I got around 7 or 8k when i turned 18. Ended up spending it all on booze and other rubbish so when i met my now wife when i was 23 I was Thousands in debt (CC, Overdraft, Loans etc). She put me on the straight and narrow and managed to help me clear my debts within a year or 2. We managed to buy our first house when i was 25.

Part of me wishes I had used that money more wisely and not done the stupid things I did. But then I also think if i hadn't made those mistakes i never would have learnt from them.
 
i am at the point now where i am contemplating what to do.... i dont really want my 18 year old son having access to £20k+ but the way we are going he will (£300 a month over 18 years - christ that is pushing 70k + what ever interest is added!!!) .

we will do our best to keep his head on straight but i know what i was like at 18!... The money we are saving is to be his... but (and yes its controlling) but we want him to use it either for his education or for him getting on the property ladder.

not to booze it all up in Benidorm or buy a bonkers car... so at some point i think we will have to do something else with the money we save him

Dad. Is that you?
I'm your long lost son.. Please fund me!
 
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That is amazing though. If I had been given 40k at 21 or 22 (or when ready to buy a house) I could have saved 12 years renting!

What an absolute great start to adulthood.
Could have done a job I liked rather than a job I have to keep up with mortgage payments etc.

Life defining stuff this.

Probably would have 500k in assets now rather than the 100k
 
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i am at the point now where i am contemplating what to do.... i dont really want my 18 year old son having access to £20k+ but the way we are going he will (£300 a month over 18 years - christ that is pushing 70k + what ever interest is added!!!) .

we will do our best to keep his head on straight but i know what i was like at 18!... The money we are saving is to be his... but (and yes its controlling) but we want him to use it either for his education or for him getting on the property ladder.

not to booze it all up in Benidorm or buy a bonkers car... so at some point i think we will have to do something else with the money we save him
That is punchy, and could be as much as £120k if you assume 6% growth on average. You hope he has his head switched on, but I imagine discussions need to happen around age 15-16 to let him know the intention was X% fun money, X% car/driving lessons, X% house deposit (or investment property).

My sparky was coached by his grandpa to buy an asset as early as possible so bought a random flat up in Sheffield that has given him the ability to go self-employed with a safety net of a steady "keep the lights on" income...
 
@bigmike20vt

That is amazing though. If I had been given 40k at 21 or 22 (or when ready to buy a house) I could have saved 12 years renting!

What an absolute great start to adulthood.
Could have done a job I liked rather than a job I have to keep up with mortgage payments etc.

Life defining stuff this.

Probably would have 500k in assets now rather than the 100k
it is what we are trying for.... I have been fortunate, my folks helped me out when i was a young adult.......but my childhood (which i did enjoy) was tough. i didnt know exactly how tough we had it but my parents were circling the drain a few times to the point of cutting down trees for firewood instead of coal and scrumping spuds the picker missed from the field opposite for food.

bringing back on point............ it is FAR harder to get on the property ladder now that it ever has been - as mentioned in multiple threads on these forums and as people are finding now who were stretched to the limit when interest was at under 3% and are now potentially facing ruin :( ,
If our lad is ever to manage to get something at a youngish age i think its going to need serious long term saving, which is why we are doing what we are doing...... hopefully enough to finish his education without too much of a debt and have a deposit for his home in the future.

I hope i am wrong but i think the economic crisis we are in now, is not going away anytime soon... i am thinking a decade easily.

right now we can cover the money ok..... it was tough initially, and it will likely be tough again in the future (my job is for certainty coming to an end at the start of 2025) but for now, we can afford it quite handily...
 
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My sparky was coached by his grandpa to buy an asset as early as possible so bought a random flat up in Sheffield that has given him the ability to go self-employed with a safety net of a steady "keep the lights on" income...

Hold on, that sounds like something almost positive being said about a hobbyist landlord.....surely not!
 
it is what we are trying for.... I have been fortunate, my folks helped me out when i was a young adult.......but my childhood (which i did enjoy) was tough. i didnt know exactly how tough we had it but my parents were circling the drain a few times to the point of cutting down trees for firewood instead of coal and scrumping spuds the picker missed from the field opposite for food.

bringing back on point............ it is FAR harder to get on the property ladder now that it ever has been - as mentioned in multiple threads on these forums and as people are finding now who were stretched to the limit when interest was at under 3% and are now potentially facing ruin :( ,
If our lad is ever to manage to get something at a youngish age i think its going to need serious long term saving, which is why we are doing what we are doing...... hopefully enough to finish his education without too much of a debt and have a deposit for his home in the future.

I hope i am wrong but i think the economic crisis we are in now, is not going anywhere soon... i am thinking a decade easily.

right now we can cover the money ok..... it was tough initially, and it will likely be tough again in the future (my job is for certainty coming to an end at the start of 2025) but for now, we can afford it quite handily...

Sounds like you have enough. A lot can change, but that still sounds like a lot.
Who knows. Houses might stagnate.

He's certainly going to be getting more than 95 percent (probably 99) are getting. The few people I've known who've even had modest starts are way in front of me with less well paid jobs. It's such an accelerator if money is used wisely
 
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