Most borderline NIP ever?
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Wasn't pulled over. I generally set CC at 76 so not quite sure what happened to be honest.
Oh well. Lecture time.
I haven't had one in years, I imagine I will get offered one once I confirm who is driving.
Probably indicated around 83-85 so he was well aware of what he was doing
100% not. I'm lazy af. I set autopilot to 76 and forget about it.
Possible the wife was driving to be fair, we were driving back from edinburgh and switched a few times. She doesn't trust the car to drive itself.
Not sure modern cars vary as much as you think, I've had GPS read within 1mph of the Tesla's reported speed on the motorway.
Fortunately I don't think they can identify me conclusively from the postBetter hope the police dont see this thread and add DWDAC also
Yep, M3 LR. Interesting, that genuinely could be the issue!! Let's believe that. Totes not my fault.
Sure my unrepentant attitude will drive more to tell me how I'm a baby killer.
Feels like getting the photo will be hassle. Doesn't help that the location they give is like, a serial number of a bridge, and "M5". Great. I have extensive knowledge of bridge serial numbers and was on the M5 from it's northernmost point to south of Bristol, so that is really helpful
Have "confessed" and await judgement.
Nope!!
I don't know about blame anyone else. In my case I'm genuinely surprised I was clocked at that speed, as I've said cruise control at 76 is normal for me and I assumed speedo over read, although others have suggested model 3 uses GPS for speedo.
I do feel that 76 (or indeed 79) on a relatively clear motorway is harmless and victimless, and I do dislike the fact that the police have no capacity to investigate burglaries, do nothing about shoplifters and train fare dodgers, let over half of people caught with class a drugs off with a warning, yet come down on speeding motorists like a ton of bricks, offering very little warning or leeway, but I guess that's mostly as speeding is a strict liability offense, motorists have registration plates in big bold letters, and pay them £100 a time.
I - or maybe my wife, not 100% sure - did the thing, sure. I don't dispute that. Don't think that precludes me having a dim view of police priorities.
The fact is that with cruise control set to 76 I often end up pulling over to let others past. There are far worse crimes about. Speed limits are, in general, lower than they should be on motorways. Enforcement is so patchy and speeding so rampant that it's more of an annoyance than a deterrent.
It is, apparently the priority the government have chosen to structure the system to point the police at. I'd take far more issue with 35 in a 30 than 79 in a 70 myself.
I'll let you know how my pointless zoom course goes.
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Well, I've since set the default speed down 1% and it does 75 on the motorway
Fining a small minority of speeding drivers to try to influence a proportion of accidents that are caused by speed is like trying to use a child's bucket to stop a flood.
It would be like penalising all drivers in Liverpool because a tiny proportion of them have driven their car into a crowd.
The speeding awareness courses are actually the problem, whilst individually we are obviously strongly incentivised to take it rather than points, the money from this is kept by the force or "safety camera partnership".
Name me another criminal offence where the police can use their discretion to not prosecute but only if you give them a £100 bung.
Throw the book at people that cause accidents. Motorways are 4% of accidents and most of them are due to inattentive driving or driving whilst tired, not doing 79. The motorway is no safer thanks to camera vans.
Whoever was driving was responsible for driving at that speed, but not responsible for every accident that has ever happened (or indeed, any of them).Spoken like a man who just got caught speeding and refuses to take responsibility…
Ha! If 79 on a motorway is "driving like a knob", then guilty I guess. Funny how if you stick at 70 people seem to tailgate you more as though they think you're the one driving like a knob!
Not sure what my politics have to do with it, but no, I was very much on the remain side, even got politically involved with the Lib Dems after brexit as I very much opposed it
Yeah, basically why I set it at 76. I'm quite convinced that constantly changing lanes (as lorries want to be in the middle lane, nobody in the outside lane wants to go as slow as 70, there are often drivers doing 60-65 in the middle lane when there isn't a lorry), is actually more dangerous than speeding by 10%.
I'm sure the course will give me a new outlook on life however.
I certainly "take responsibility" for my speed causing me to get a penalty, I just don't feel repentant about it, or responsible for accidents caused by others, or agree that I was driving dangerously, as others seem to feel.
At least when someone driving like a knob at 79 overtakes you, you get to take a long hard look at them, so that they think about their life choices, in the 5 minutes it takes them to overtake
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I've been driving for 18y, and have attended one course like 10y ago, and it's obviously 12 points to lose my license, so I think I'm good!
The lesson is obviously "there is a £10/yr surcharge on driving", which given that I save £14 each day I drive to work rather than take the train, is pretty cheap.
It would. Not sure we'll ever find out though, they tend to reduce these to "a police incident" etc.
In 2022, exceeding the speed limit was reported as a contributory factor in 7% of accidents. ( https://www.itf-oecd.org/sites/default/files/united-kingdom-road-safety.pdf ). It seems that motorway specific data is hard to find, but motorways have been shown to have higher rates of collisions caused by inattentiveness, tiredness, and fatigue ( https://www.brake.org.uk/get-involved/take-action/mybrake/knowledge-centre/driver-fatigue ), which would imply other causes (e.g. speeding) were a smaller contributor.
In any case, I'm confident I didn't cause any accidents.
I do wonder, if I had an accident at 69, and someone died, would it be entirely forgivable? If I had the same accident, but at 71, it would be a terrible atrocity? Obviously we intend for nobody to die, but my feeling of "that could have been me!!" is no greater when I hear of an accident knowing I drove at 69 than it is at 76.
After all, the speed limit is black and white, as everyone here has told me. If you're driving at an indicated 70, there is every chance you're actually driving at 70.4mph, and breaking the law, just the same as someone doing 104mph. Everyone should only drive at a displayed 69.
I guess it's a bit like the uber eats "priority delivery". Every 10y I might have to pay £10, but in the mean time I get there a bit quicker.
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I really don't feel you have enough evidence to judge my entire personality from this thread.
I'm most definitely not right in all circumstances, about everything!
One of us (possibly me, but I don't remember exceeding 76) definitely did 79 on the motorway. Oh well, I've done worse!!
It's a <£100 speeding awareness course at the end of the day, not a particular issue or struggle. Who am I supposed to say sorry to, or display humility to? The people on this thread who wouldn't even know of my crime, had I not told them?
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Yeah, obviously there is a discrete limit.
I think it's ok for me to be like "aww, so close!!!" when getting caught right on that limit. Just like football fans when the ball bounces off the post. Not like I'm crying about it!
Honestly I thought 10%+2 was the leeway (hence setting CC to 76), and 10%+3 was where they enforced from, hence was surprised to see a NIP for 79 in a 70.
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